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Receptacle in Mirror #121924
09/01/05 03:59 PM
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I thought this was interesting. It is in a bathroom of a vacation cottage we were at. Has anyone seen this before. It solves the problem of where to put the required outlet. The glass mirror has an opening in it for the gfci receptacle.

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Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121925
09/01/05 04:57 PM
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I see this everyday in my city.

If you are installing them, you want to use an extension ring. The covers break very easily if they are not perfectly installed.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121926
09/01/05 06:03 PM
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The covers break very easily if they are not perfectly installed.


So do the mirrors [Linked Image] You can guess how I know that.

Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121927
09/02/05 02:04 AM
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Thanks for the picture e-man2!. [Linked Image]
Is that plate stainless steel?.
Only thing that would concern me about this, would be wether there has ben some sort of sealing around the back of the GFCI plate to prevent moisture getting into the recept.
Or is this mirror equipped with one of those mirror demisters?.
One of the local FF's here is a glazier and he said he hates working with mirrors, you have to use special glue to hold them to the wall.
He also mentioned he has built up about 600 years of bad luck, if you are superstititously-inclined.
Shame on you Tony. [Linked Image]

Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121928
09/02/05 02:40 PM
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I guess the plate is mirrored glass too... guess they're _not_ cheap...

Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121929
09/02/05 02:43 PM
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Yes the plate is SS and I wasn't about to remove it to look further and take a chance on blowing my security deposit. [Linked Image]


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Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121930
09/02/05 07:59 PM
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Do this all the time... Important not to use screw gun! And, solid backing at the opening. I usually write on the wall for the glass guys to add mastic all around the box. It helps reduce the chances it will crack.


Mark Heller
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Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121931
09/03/05 05:02 AM
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It wouldnt be allowed in that room in the first place in the uk, so I guess we wouldnt have the problem with the mirror, uk 240v and outlet+wet hands dont go together to well

Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121932
09/03/05 09:52 AM
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Anyone else think the plate screws should be stainless as well?

They appear to be ivory.

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uk 240v and outlet+wet hands dont go together to well


I may be mistaken but isn't that 240 system still 120 volts to ground, presenting the same level of danger to the user?

Interestingly if this was a 240 outlet the NEC would not require GFCI protection.


Bob Badger
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Massachusetts
Re: Receptacle in Mirror #121933
09/03/05 11:16 AM
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We always used mirror plates for this, not stainless.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
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