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SE Cable Installation #119865
02/05/05 04:47 PM
02/05/05 04:47 PM
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Would this pass 230.70 A (1) "The service disconnecting means shall be installed at a readily accessible location either outside of a building or nearest the point of entrance of service conductors." The cable continues three feet outside the picture and out to the meter.

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Re: SE Cable Installation #119866
02/05/05 05:50 PM
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Electricmanscott, I would say you are right at the limit of Mass Electric Code 230.70 A (1) which allows you to go 10'. Under the NEC I would say this would not pass.
Al

Re: SE Cable Installation #119867
02/05/05 06:09 PM
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Al that section requires the disconnect if located outside to be within 10' of building served.

Inside it is still 'nearest the point of entrance'.

As you know I have not done many home services but I thought most of the inspectors are looking for 5' or less?

2002 Mass amendments
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230.70(A)(1). Revise to read as
follows:

(1) Readily Accessible Location. The service
disconnecting means shall be installed at a readily accessible location either outside and attached to or within 3 m (10 ft) of the building or structure served, or inside nearest the point of entrance of the service conductors.


In my opinion the wording is tough to decipher.

I have not seen the 2005 amendments, perhaps there is a change.

Bob


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Massachusetts
Re: SE Cable Installation #119868
02/05/05 06:19 PM
02/05/05 06:19 PM
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Bob, still reads the same for '05. By the way I did not, and would not install this.


[This message has been edited by Electricmanscott (edited 02-05-2005).]

Re: SE Cable Installation #119869
02/05/05 06:27 PM
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I did not, and would not install this.


He** I knew that. [Linked Image]

Bob


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Re: SE Cable Installation #119870
02/05/05 09:35 PM
02/05/05 09:35 PM
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NO...that is beyond the nearest point IMO.

shortcircuit

Re: SE Cable Installation #119871
02/07/05 06:29 PM
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Bruceton Mills, WV
Not a chance on God's green earth (around here)

Re: SE Cable Installation #119872
02/07/05 06:57 PM
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Cohasset MA
Scott

Is the masonary wall clear of obstruction and provides access per 110.26??

No Oil Tanks Etc.Just curious!!

Charlie

Re: SE Cable Installation #119873
02/07/05 07:00 PM
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Wouldn't pass here. [Linked Image]


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Salt Lake City
Re: SE Cable Installation #119874
02/07/05 07:56 PM
02/07/05 07:56 PM
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st joseph mi usa
NM stapled on the face of those 2x4's wouldn't pass around here either

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