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These photos are from the first job I almost walked away from. I was sent to 'make the heater work.' Well, I did, but almost everything else was disconnected before I left.
The location is an industrial rental, that the tenant had "added" basic living facilities to. In the course of adding a "kitchen," he had disconnected the furnace blower somewhere.
Not clear in the photos are the disconnect circuits that were already there when I arrived. Nothing, including the panel, had a cover attached (covers were usually lying nearby). The service is a 240/120 Delta, so every third "110" circuit had 208v. Almost every wiring method was used, including the liberal use of romex adjacent to a pottery kiln.
Handy boxes typically had missing KO's. Wires were typically undersized. No GFI's, of course. And, while I MIGHT consider a short length of properly strain-relieved SO being used to connect a water heater to a nearby dedicated receptacle, his long run of loose #14 SJTO was a bit much!
- John Steinke ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/no_covers.jpg)
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That's a mess and a half you had on your hands there, John. I wouldn't walk away from a job like that though, I'd run!. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/biggrin.gif)
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Looks like an extention cord was used for the water heater. Lol...
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What I don't get is.... If the tenant already fitted an extension cord to the heater, why didn't he just fit a plug at the end of the orange cord, jam the sucker into a light socket and leave it at that instead of futzing with the circuit breaker box? color me confused... ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/confused.gif)
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Hi, All! Please indulge me, while I bring this old thread back to life!
Things happen...sometimes slowly...but they do happen! This guy finally vacated his space (with some encouragement), and has moved his mess elsewhere.
This week I had the pleasure of entering the now-vacant space, and clearing out all of his mess. When I was done, the only thing left connected was my heater circuit! I then went and installed a few basic circuits for the next tenant.
The water heater had been removed. Now, so has the extension cord. Not to be out-done, this guy also had concealed/covered an open junction box by building a (plywood) "shower" atop it! And not a GFI in the place. Another J-box was covered by the plywood duct from his pottery kiln. In several places, he used two-screw clamps to grip individual conductors, that then floated through the wall spaces.
Soon I will post some more pics.
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Removing an installation like this.....priceless.
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First photo - pressure valve not piped to floor.
Middle photo - pick a direction ground up or ground down. And what's with the random outlet placement.
Last photo - was he running wires or water to the switch?
The delta 208 note reminds of a story where some DIYers I met were complaining how the 'voltage at this place was messed up and fried their stuff when they hooked up a new sub panel...half the stuff was at 210 volts' DUH!!!!
After seeing this I have to go cry now....
RSlater, RSmike
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I dont think its an extension cord, though sometimes some 10-3 can look like one. Who did this work....Uncle Billy Joe's great grandpa from Googie, Al? (Just being a little smart-alek here). ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/eek.gif) [This message has been edited by lil suzi (edited 08-14-2005).]
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