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Seeing only the cardboard as a problem is a little 'shortsighted'.
How about the panel mounted on a cabinet. How about the conductors not supported to the enclosured. How about the bundling. How about taped breakers, how about the transformer installed on a combustible surface (construction paper), how about the support of conductors supplying the transformer, how about working clearance, how about the panel labeling not being complete, how about the water bottle sitting on top of the cabinet above the panel and transformer, how about the screws missing on the panel cover, how about the open trough covers, how about the use of cardboard to protect the NM cable entering the panel enclosure.

As I am not there, I would be suspect from what I can see about the: grounding of the transformer, and the panel it self. The wiring in the ceiling shows the lack of concern for one of the most important aspects of our industry - PRIDE!!!

Pierre

Mike sorry I took a while to get back to these questions.



I do not know how to perform arc fault calculations but what I do know of them it would be high. This store has it's own 13 KV to 480 V pad mount transformer located outside as close to the main disconnect in this electric room as possible. It is not more than 50' of conductor from that transformer to the lugs of the main. From what I understand this will provide one heck of a flash.

The Main disconnect is located in this electric room in picture one you can see the main gear on the extreme right side of the picture.

Typically for these stores it is 1,200 to 1,600 amps @ 480, I did not check the rating of the service in this particular store. The one good point is it has GFP protection.


I could not get a good picture of that section but it looks the same as the gear in pictures 4 and 5. It is fusible disconnect gear being partly modified to breakers.

I agree with Pierre this is a total lack of pride in the work.

I also maintain that there are some truly dangerous issues in here.

Not to say we are perfect either, one of our service guys went on a service call to a building that the construction guys are remodeling. The service guy took photos and gave them to our safety officer. The job Foreman and the PM got their rear side chewed off for what showed in the pictures and it was nothing like the mess in my photos.

Bob

In your picture of the panel the breaker schedule shows the contractor name and client name. Unless you want this info added to the discussion, I recommend you blur out the breaker schedule.

As far as non identifing information, the BBB gives the contractor a satsifactory ranking. This looks like a very small company (3 employees). The state has had some paperwork issues and their bussiness license seems to be in arrears.

Its kind of scary what is available about anyone on the internet.

SD

Strangedog the panel was a used one I doubt very much that the info on the panel is the installing contractor. The panel schedule did not match the job.

And yes you can find a lot out on the net.