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#115745 12/19/03 12:53 AM
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I was on a service call for an intermittently-working set of duplex receptacles. After removing the cover and pulling out the receptacles, and after pulling my jaw from the floor, I reached for my camera took these pictures. I shouldn't be shocked (no pun intended) to see this kind of work anymore, but this box is located in a child's bedroom which really disturbs me. I will also note that the wire nut connecting the ungrounded conductors was on loose and each of the wires had the ability to move freely.


#115746 12/19/03 01:09 AM
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He didn't use enough Duct Tape?

#115747 12/19/03 01:35 AM
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Amazing. And what's even more significant is that there appears to be no sign of scorching.

How does chewed up NM cable like this get fixed when pulling a new cable and/or cutting back the damaged section is not an option?

Do you just find heat-shrink tubing that's big enough to fit over the cable jacket or do you wrap that whole sucker up with insulating tape? What if the underlying conductor insulation is also chewed up?


#115748 12/19/03 04:37 AM
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The black jumper wire between the receptacles is wrapped the wrong way around the screw or is it a continous wire that loops around the screw? The cut NM appears to be an extra cable, as does the NM with the writing on the sheath. The right side of pic #3 shows RotoZip cut in the box. Is this what caused the cut in the NM? I also don't see any sheath in the box from the NM with the loose red wire nut(or a ground unless it's hiding behind the grounded cond.).


[This message has been edited by stamcon (edited 12-19-2003).]

#115749 12/19/03 09:43 AM
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Stamcon (Steve):

You're right; the black jumper wire between the receptacles is wrapped the wrong way around the screw. That wire was not continuous, but the ground wire was. The neutral was also continuous.

I am unsure of the Rotozip casualty in the box... it is a nail-on, not an old-work box, so you'd think the sheetrocker (or DIY) would've cut the hole out ahead of time???

Finally, you're also correct in your observation that the NM with the loose red wire nut has no sheath inside the box. I pulled everything out the best I could and shined my light where the wires entered the box and could see no evidence of a sheath. Eeeek!

#115750 12/19/03 10:56 AM
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Since the chewed jacket/insulation goes all the way down to the conductor itself in several places, I wonder if the conductor itself is nicked or damaged?

...Hate those "push and pray" connectors on receptacles and switches. [Linked Image]

Mike (mamills)

#115751 12/19/03 02:21 PM
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also looks like the carlon box suffered from rotozip-itis

#115752 12/19/03 02:23 PM
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oops stamcom i daidnt fully read your post.. sorry [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by sparked (edited 12-19-2003).]

#115753 12/19/03 08:39 PM
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Just when you think you have seen it all. [Linked Image]

#115754 12/20/03 10:50 PM
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...Hate those "push and pray" connectors on receptacles and switches.
I can't stand those back-stabbed my opinion,it should be a violation..the contact made with that is horrible,and if you lose a neutral because of one of them,you pull your hair out trying to find the offending receptacle...I realize this is a bit off topic,but I had to rant...I feel much better now,...thanx!!

[This message has been edited by Attic Rat (edited 12-20-2003).]

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