ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
Inspection camera help
by Bill Addiss. 09/19/18 10:50 PM
220/230/240V 60Hz Systems
by gfretwell. 09/16/18 12:37 PM
Acronis Backup 2017
by gfretwell. 09/16/18 12:46 AM
Tingle off the water spigot
by Trumpy. 09/15/18 03:24 AM
Lighting Load questions
by HotLine1. 09/14/18 07:04 PM
New in the Gallery:
Plug terminals
Housebilding DIY wiring
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (Bill Addiss), 27 guests, and 21 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
UglyService #112140
04/06/01 08:41 PM
04/06/01 08:41 PM
Admin  Offline
OP
Administrator
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,516
NY, USA
[Linked Image]

Submitted by S. Wilson


The utilities (So Cal Edison) were moved from overhead to underground. Somebody did a whole neighborhood like this. There are NEMA 3R gutters mounted on top of the old service masts, and the new UG was piped up to them. No support for the gutters, other than the conduits, which are entering through concentric KO's.

Thanks for a great site
..... electure (S. Wilson)

Tools for Electricians:
Re: UglyService #112141
04/06/01 10:47 PM
04/06/01 10:47 PM
M
Merritt  Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 21
Miami, Fl, USA
i work for a "Florida power and light" contractor here, so we change out meter cans and meter/mains, we also do ug services and upgrades... and from all ive done, thats just a gosh darn dirty installation there.. lol if it HAD to be done like that i would have: taken one 3" or whatever size pipe was needed to a smaller nema box sitting on one riser, and taken a pipe over to the other riser and connect it with an elbow (perhaps shorten one or both pipes..) , and either spliced in the nema box, or pull in both sets from down below.. then i would have built a uni-strut stand for it atleast.. a ghetto installation if i ever saw one.. 'woulda been ideal to come in from the bottom, and NOT penetrate the roof.. oh well!

-m


Remember when you read my posts, im only 17, still learning... "Hey, its takes what it takes!"
Re: UglyService #112142
04/07/01 07:39 AM
04/07/01 07:39 AM
S
sparky  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,360
such a visibly vile violation!, i can't imagine a utility , never mind an AHJ,that would condone this.

is thgis recent history?

was this an attempt to leave the 7 meters as "existing", and not upgrade to a disco?

[Linked Image]

Re: UglyService #112143
04/09/01 04:31 PM
04/09/01 04:31 PM
Bill Addiss  Online Content
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,902
NY, USA
electure,

UglyService is a perfect name for this. It was probably the easiest and most cost effective way to do it though.

Bill

Re: UglyService #112144
04/09/01 08:16 PM
04/09/01 08:16 PM
Tom  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,044
Shinnston, WV USA
Bill,

It is almost always cost effective to cheat the work. Until you have to make it right of course.

Pile of junk.

As far as I can tell, the 7 meters were OK until this went underground.

Tom


Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Re: UglyService #112145
04/09/01 10:32 PM
04/09/01 10:32 PM
Bill Addiss  Online Content
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,902
NY, USA
electure,

Did the Utility contract out to have this done? Re-reading your post again and seeing the Concentric Ko's part makes me wonder who's signing off on this. Ugliness aside, I wouldn't think that would fly with anyone.

Bill

Re: UglyService #112146
04/10/01 08:05 AM
04/10/01 08:05 AM
electure  Offline

Member
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,274
Fullerton, CA USA
This was done in the late 70's in L.A. county,CA. AHJ here is normally "by the book", but must have thrown it out on this one. I worked for a company that bid on something of this nature, but we were going to mount the cans under the eaves and rework the existing risers(more $ and probably why we didn't get any of the work). It makes for an interesting skyline of about 8 city blocks. There goes the neighborhood.

Re: UglyService #112147
04/10/01 05:49 PM
04/10/01 05:49 PM
S
sparky  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,360
so how many people ask
"what kind of lights are those??"

[Linked Image]

Re: UglyService #112148
04/11/01 08:05 AM
04/11/01 08:05 AM
electure  Offline

Member
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,274
Fullerton, CA USA
Sparky, those lights may be the wave of the future for SoCalEdison,"blackout lights". I got a chance to talk to the very old EC that I worked for back then. He said that these were funded by the utility, and being ahead of the point of connection were not subject to the NEC or local codes. He's still amazed.

Re: UglyService #112149
04/11/01 11:54 PM
04/11/01 11:54 PM
Bill Addiss  Online Content
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,902
NY, USA
electure,

I had a feeling it was something like that!

[Linked Image]
Bill

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
akmaster
akmaster
alaska
Posts: 70
Joined: June 2012
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 13
Trumpy 11
sparky 9
Popular Topics(Views)
249,297 Are you busy
187,231 Re: Forum
176,594 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.021s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 1.0254 MB (Peak: 1.2021 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-09-20 04:52:34 UTC