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#109895 - 12/30/05 12:23 PM Cab tire embedded in plaster  
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SI,New Zealand
Photo's and information submitted by Check Pilot:

I am the proud new owner of this house built in 1978. I think the previous owner must have hired an "electrician" who does work at an extremely low rate.

This is only one of the "innovative" uses for old extension cords. I guess the drywall will protect the cable won't it.????

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#109896 - 12/30/05 12:53 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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I had a service call once for 'lights out' and found that the Customer had finished his basement with cord like this. He did it because he heard NM shouldn't be subject to damage so he thought the cord would be a better choice.


#109897 - 12/30/05 01:56 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
Check Pilot  Offline
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 141
Edmonton Alberta Canada
You can also see the nice Phillips head wood screw with it's nice sharp pointy end in the lower left of the octagon box that was used to secure the fixture. That little piece of hardware had pierced through the hot conductor at one time and shorted out the cable to the bonded conductor. I'm happy that at least the minimal ground connection to the box saved the day.

It probably saved alot of time after dropping and losing the original screw to just use one that happened to be handy in the ol' tool pouch.

#109898 - 12/30/05 06:00 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
ShockMe77  Offline
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 821
Rahway, New Jersey
Looks to me that there's a suspended ceiling above this outlet box so I don't see anything wrong with this installation other than the how the wire was installed into the box. Taking out the NM clamp, and knocking out the KO is a pain, I know, but still.

Also, I'd like to see a green hexhead screw used for grounding the box. 1978 huh, I always thought that type of romex was much older. I've been wiring since 1990, so.

#109899 - 12/30/05 07:14 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
joebob982  Offline
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wow, i have yet to see such a wonderful installation. i mean such care was taken in making sure the wire was properly plastered into the wall. and come on at least they used wire nuts this time not just tape.

#109900 - 12/31/05 02:57 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
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Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 625
Palo Alto, CA, USA
But Joe Bob, don't you think he should have come into the box through a proper twist-out and clamp? There's one available about three-quarters of an inch from where he's coming into the box. [Linked Image]

#109901 - 12/31/05 06:09 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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1978 huh, I always thought that type of romex was much older

He said this was an old extension cord, it's not Romex.


#109902 - 12/31/05 07:24 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
NORCAL  Offline
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That is older romex going horizontally on the wood above the box, I say 1968 is more likely to be correct, unless someone dug out a box of NM that was "just laying around". [Linked Image] .

#109903 - 12/31/05 11:16 PM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
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Posts: 524
Bergen Co.,N.J. USA
... Had the "pleasure" of actually finding a roll of this old Rx in an attic I was in, it was 14/2 WITHOUT a ground!! looked like a silver snake all coiled up with its grey/silver scales, useless to me other than the "vintageness" attached to it... Maybe I'll sell it on E-Bay.. [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

...BTW,..what's the REAL romex doing in there, it a switch loop??

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#109904 - 01/01/06 11:13 AM Re: Cab tire embedded in plaster  
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Posts: 183
Malden MA
> ...BTW,..what's the REAL romex doing in there, it a switch loop??

I hope not; it loks like it is in parallel with the feed and fixture. I'd guess the Romex is the feed, and the extension cord was added to power another fixture later on.

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