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#109853 - 12/23/05 12:53 AM Service Violations  
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Weekend Depot Project - Home owner is a Lawyer, and trying to save money. After the utility " CUT " Service - The Lawyer is after the Utility for not allowing him to perform work on his own property.

This service was DANGEROUS, and the customer was asking for " Estimates " to clean up his work... look at this....

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#109854 - 12/23/05 03:18 AM Re: Service Violations  
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Well, the PoCo may have been right in preventing this from getting any worse, if that's actually possible!. [Linked Image]

#109855 - 12/23/05 11:37 AM Re: Service Violations  
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"The Lawyer is after the Utility" Estimates " to clean up his work
Let me guess - Free Estimates

Run Forest! Run!

#109856 - 12/23/05 11:39 AM Re: Service Violations  
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Elkhart, IN. USA
He can do all the work he wants on his own property.
The utility company has the authority to NOT connect it if they consider it unsafe.
While he sits in the dark he might reconsider the money he spent on the full page ad on the back cover of the phone book and call an electrician.
An inspector once told me that if someone wants to do brain surgery on themselves he wasn't going to stop them. He then said he wasn't going to give them the scalpel.

If it was easy, anyone could do it.

#109857 - 12/23/05 12:31 PM Re: Service Violations  
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Is this a recent installation in LIPA territory? I'm wondering where he bought the Meter Enclosure.

(FYI to ECN Membere: This type and size of Meter Enclosure hasn't been permitted on Long Island for about 10 years or more now)


#109858 - 12/23/05 01:24 PM Re: Service Violations  
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Are them two gutters inter-connected?
It looks like there seems to be something between the two units.
Guy couldn't have guessed that hole size in the bottom any worse either, you could house a family of 5 in that gap.
Is that meter base actually recessed into the wall?.
Something doesn't look right between the gutter and the pipe.
One final thing, there must be a bend and a half on the conduit feeding into the right-most meter.
Wouldn't there normally be saddles on that?.

#109859 - 12/23/05 02:03 PM Re: Service Violations  
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Palo Alto, CA, USA
Just as a total, off-the-wall, random guess, I'm guessing that this isn't a single-family dwelling?

#109860 - 12/23/05 02:57 PM Re: Service Violations  
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Sayville, N.Y., 11782-1108
Hi Bill,

Yes what a mess.. I was one of 8 contractors looking at this mess in South Floral Park. The Meter Pan Is NOT Approved for LI, The Home Owner attended a class at Home Depot on " Service Changes " and bought all the materials there.. The Troff / Gutter were just placed together & the KO were too large for the Connectors. The Best, The Hanging 60 Amp " A " Base Meter - fed a 200A MAin Breaker Panel Inside Basement Apt. - for a " 1 family " house.

#109861 - 12/23/05 04:42 PM Re: Service Violations  
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While he's at it...the lawyer might consider suing the seminar, for giving out incomplete or incorrect information, and for misleading the public into thinking this sort of job was within their competence.

Just one such suit would sure slow down these DIY "enablers."

#109862 - 12/23/05 05:47 PM Re: Service Violations  
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Just one such suit would sure slow down these DIY "enablers."

I couldn't agree more, mate.
If this is the standard of work that they are teaching at these "classes", something seriously needs to be done.
It sort of makes you wonder as well, what sort of wiring standards, some homeowners have inside thier houses, because of poor tuition.
Other side of the coin, you have to also realise that a seminar like this can't teach you everything and I'd be inclined to think that on the majority of occasions where work like this has occured, it's the result of the homeowner either guessing (through lack of knowledge) or substituting the proper parts and equipment for something that they "happened to have handy".
Either way, it's just not good enough!. [Linked Image]

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