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I usually see the hardwood floor installers do this. If I catch them, I steal whatever gadget they are using. The builder doesn't want to pay for xtra temps, and they try to use 2 saws and 2 compressors on 1 circuit-wont work! I tell them, if you want to use that much at one time, better bring a generator. The superintendants usually agree with me. Oh yeah-the kicker is they dont like to replace the panel cover
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Exactly what the marble guys in our house did... alligator clips to the 220V/100amp bus. Unmetered power too... but that's a common sight with any construction people here working in places like apartment building hallways, basements,...
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From an inspectors perspective, I call the utility and have the building disconnected. The general Contractor comes into the office and raves about having no power. I usually offer him the phone number to the WCB (like OSHA) and suggest he gets the temporary service he just removed returned. I have never had to do this twice with the same contractor. The electrical contractor often gets a $100 dollar ticket too. It is the ticket I hate to write since the electrical contractor is not usually the guy who created the hazard. The tile guy or whomever gets a ticket and loses the cheater cord too. If a Workers Compensation Inspector comes on site and sees something like this will write a $5000 tickets for first offences.
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Reminds me of the guy that used an adaptor, lamp socket to two prong recetacle type, and screwed it into the fuse holder of his sixty amp service so he could run his table saw. His was only a 60 amp extension cord, #14, two wire, of course. "The only thing I don't understand about electricity is why more people don't get killed." Hogan, Chief Electrical Inspector City of Chicago 1982. Alan--
Alan-- If it was easy, anyone could do it.
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I see the hardwod floor guys do this all the time too. The best is when they never put the panel cover back on and the GC screams at my boss and I get blamed for it!! Not much I can do as far as a installing a temporary double-pole circuit for the floor guys, but I ALWAYS install the required GFCI receptacle in an unfinished basement beneath the panel.
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Saw a guy sanding a floor with a big sander that he plugged into the stove outlet. The sander had a female end on it and his DIY extention cord had male on both ends! Plug in only the cord and you have a serious hazard!
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I would love to see tamperproof panel screws. I mean, if they're used for bathroom stall dividers, we should be able to use them for electrical panels!
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We can do our best ... but there is a limit to what can be done ... especially when you are combating a mind-set. As far as fervent, unwavering dedication to a creed goes, there is no religion like "Idiot-ology!" ECN once had a pic of a panel that had added to it numerous hasps and locks, to keep out the ignorant. Locks were cut, hasps destroyed, and the cover pried away. As for the floor-sanding crew: One apartment complex had me instal dedicated receptacles just for their use. No matter... they went straight to the panels, and clipped onto the bussbars. They didn't even try- and when the new receptacles were pointed out to them, they could still not be bothered to use them!
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Funny I've never come across a flooring guy doing this, but I have come across more than one roofer/framer with air compressors in tote attempting this... First time I told him where to plug things in, he said he'd take care of it... I came back the next day and he did the same thing (He was doubletapping the 200A main load side!). I called my boss who sent me to another job for the day and called CalOSHA. GC and roofer both got sizable money demands (in the $500 - $1000 range if I remember correctly).
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Reminds me of the guy that used an adaptor, lamp socket to two prong recetacle type, and screwed it into the fuse holder of his sixty amp service so he could run his table saw. His was only a 60 amp extension cord, #14, two wire, of course. In that case where did he steal the neutral wire from? If he put a Edison to two prong receptacle adapter in a fuse holder wouldn't only have a hot wire? Since the Fuse breaks the hot connection? so where would he steal a neutral wire from or did he take the cover off the panel and clip something onto the neutral bar?
Theres always enough room in the junction box.You just need a bigger hammer
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