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#108392 04/16/04 06:20 AM
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Behold, some of the things I showed a bit of concern over during a home inspection today....

Once again.... Job Security [Linked Image]

Randy (Losatazhell)

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#108393 04/16/04 09:25 AM
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Is that white stuff zip-cord going into the boxes?! I know the yellow one looks like a flat three-conductor extension cord...

Why do i get the impression that that panel in the last picture is inside a bathroom? [Linked Image]

#108394 04/16/04 10:44 AM
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Good (bad) pics!

Is the flex in Pic. 2 going to a fitting, or it is just terminated inside the box somehow, or is it hidden by the box cover? (noticing the conduit connector beside, and nothing near the flex)

#108395 04/16/04 03:06 PM
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There's a panel in one of those pictures? [Linked Image]

Oh, wait, there it is! I didn't see it because they disguised it as a rats nest! [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


#108396 04/16/04 04:11 PM
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I think thats white Romex, Sven.

#108397 04/16/04 09:16 PM
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Sven... The "white stuff" is indeed 14/2 Romex.. You also win the "eagle eye" award... That panel is indeed in a bathroom! Story is, that the bathroom was created from what "was" once part of the back porch.. Hence, the original location of the fuse box when this 1928 house was built...
I'm curious how long it's been illegal to have a panel in a bathroom... since the homeowner states the bathroom was there when he bought the house in 1952 & so was the fuse box... A relative installed the Murray subpanel sometime in the early 90's..
The cloth ground wire entering the back of the panel through the hole goes down under the house & "wraps" around a water pipe! [Linked Image]

Doug... There is a flex connector there.. the disconnect cover overlaps the can a little.. No ground in the flex BTW...


#108398 04/17/04 01:21 AM
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The sticker in picture #2 should say "Turn off power before working inside or outside"
Actually "Turn off power" might be better.

Picture #3 shows what to do if you forgot your pipe stretcher at home.

Picture #4 shows what happens if your pipe stretcher is out of adjustment.


#108399 04/17/04 10:13 AM
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Randy: What are they using for a power source to the bathroom panel? All I can see is a pair of wires (blue and white) coming out of the end of a 1/2" piece of iron pipe stuck through the top of the can. [Linked Image]
I guess they only needed half the panel energized...?

Mike (mamills)

#108400 04/17/04 11:31 AM
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That IS whats feeding it... & that feeds the ENTIRE house! Except for the garage..
The other end of the #6THHN is coming from something similar to this
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It comes from one pole of a "multi-breaker" (rated 35A!) & feeds one phase on that subpanel, thus why the 3rd cb is skipping spaces..


#108401 04/19/04 11:18 AM
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Sparked said:

I think thats white Romex, Sven.

Oh okay. My bad. Yeah if I look closely enough I can see that it's NM (especially in the first of the two shots that show the cable going into the box).

Thing is, I'm so used to seeing people use white 16-AWG/type SPT-2 cord as fixed surface-mount wiring that if I see white cable with that groove running down the middle the first thing that pops into my head is zip cord.

The fact that we don't use NM cable in most New York City construction also doesn't help. [Linked Image]

P.S. Local code ammendments require type BX cable on multi-story buildings (I think more than two or three stories, I'll check tonight) and obviously commercial structures.

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