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About halfway down the left side of the panel it looks like the phases get mixed up. Look, it goes black, red, black, red, black, red, black, black, red, black, red.

If these are multi wire bracnh circuits that could explain the nuetral discoloration on some of the nuetrals. If they are using 2 legs of the same phase and a common nuetral, the nuetral will carry the sum of both leg's current. It looks like this may have ocurred on the right side as well.

Just a thought. [Linked Image]


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Hello
I am a trained electricial who will be setting my oral examination in a few weeks. In Jamaica the license exam is a two part.

From my knowledge the problem lies around the following.
(1) The earth loop impedance is very high,as a result the high floating neutral current that is caused from an unbalance circuits have no where to go.

(2) The screws are loose at the neutral bar.


I do not like this panel as it have do main disconnect. In Jamaica if the panel is more than two meters away from the main disconnect then this panel must have its own disconnect

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In the eastern side of the USA, it seems to be popular, if not universal to have the power co.'s meter outside with a main disconnect.. This in-turn feeds to a distribution panel elsewhere..

So there is a shutoff outside of the house? Is this something that has a lock so nobody does a "pssst...watch this!" and shuts off someone's power? If there is a lock, how can one quickly shut off power?

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Another guess....... they lost a phase, so it got "temp'ed" up using the one remaining live leg.

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Thanks for telling me that, Lotzahell. [Linked Image]


[This message has been edited by Theelectrikid (edited 07-05-2006).]


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If this is a sub panel, where is the equipment grounding conductor? Also the grounding and grounded conductors should be isolated from each other in this panel.

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WOW...that looks like a very hot panel !
so hot in fact that the buss with all the over-heated neutrals on it, looks like it's warped up a bit in the middle and even cracked at the top, right in the middle!!!

I can see how the 2 screws that secure the buss could be loose and causing this...looks terrible.....almost like water has dead shorted those top 2 breakers to the neutral buss there at one time or another...


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