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#103097 10/31/03 02:04 AM
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You could stack 3 or 4 extension rings on the box "lego style".

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#103098 10/31/03 08:10 AM
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Use of an extension ring(s) may solve this problem, but the NEC requires that all of the conductors in the box must be capable of extending from the edge of the last ring too at least 3 inches outside, and no splices are allowed.

See 300.14 Length of Free Conductors at Outlets, Junctions, and Switch Points.


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#103099 12/24/03 04:25 AM
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Attic Overcrowding of Boxes!

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http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?forumid=21


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#103100 12/24/03 09:05 PM
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I would like to see the inside of that one but I would be afraid to loosen the cover screws.


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#103101 12/25/03 05:31 AM
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Shoulda written the following on that box lid:

"WARNING! CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE!"

#103102 12/25/03 11:49 PM
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yeah how did they get all of them wires in there. should be a warning that says "open at your own risk".LOL!

#103103 12/26/03 12:38 AM
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I followed that link. Mostly HVAC stuff but there are some real interesting pics. One of a heavy feeder bunged to copper pipe to fit the lugs.

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#103104 12/26/03 09:34 AM
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That is not an issue, those are the heating boxes for the attic. [Linked Image]

Really, how does someone even begin to think that this installation is remotely okay. Because this is so blatant, I would think this person bids low and only is concerned with the bottom line. I would also bet this person is the first to cry fowl when he has some poor job thrown his way. This is idiotic and gives our industry a black eye.

The question begs - as a legimate contractor do you tell the customer this needs to be fixed?

Pierre


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#103105 12/29/03 04:45 PM
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Hey, that box isn't full, there are still knockouts that aren't used!

#103106 01/06/04 04:40 AM
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i thought it was 6 inches free conductor? conductors of different systems are allowed in the same box as long as there are no devices in that box. unfortunately, i know of no code which differentiates between 120 and 277v colors, a good electrician uses boy colors, brown orange yellow and grey for the neutral.

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