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Ranges #100991
01/25/07 08:15 PM
01/25/07 08:15 PM
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dilydalyer  Offline OP
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In the 2002 code,is T220.19 for load calculations....I have a gut telling me you can set your overcurrent prot. and wire size by this table......

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Re: Ranges #100992
01/28/07 07:26 AM
01/28/07 07:26 AM
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This section of the code is for multiple groups of ranges. It is the most confusing part of the code in My opinion. You must use all three columns. It is not like dryers that run a percentage on the total number. To use this table it takes a bit figuring out

Re: Ranges #100993
01/28/07 11:09 AM
01/28/07 11:09 AM
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dilydalyer  Offline OP
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When I posted this message I meant to say GUY instead GUT....sorry.I would appreciate input on this...thanks jdo.

Re: Ranges #100994
01/28/07 11:34 AM
01/28/07 11:34 AM
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George Little  Offline
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This was posted previously last week and I responded but I'm not sure what I said was very definitive. I have since asked around and looked at the code again and here's what I belive the code says:
220.19 (2002) and 220.55 (2005) and their associated tables are for calculating the load(s) for branch circuits, feeders or services.

The other code reference 210.21(B)(4) tells us that we can size the receptacle based on 220.19 ('02) or 220.55 ('05) so if we size the receptacle using this approach we more than likely would size the rest of the circuit this way.

Also look at Note 4 for Table 220.19 ('02) or 220.55 ('05) and you get a sense of how a branch circuit for a single range is sized.

The code also says that for a 12KW range the receptacle can not be less than 40a.

8000/240=33.3 but we must use a 40a. wire and overcurrent and I think a 50a. receptacle. I don't believe they make a 40a. receptacle

I would like to hear from others as to my error or lack thereof.

[This message has been edited by George Little (edited 01-28-2007).]


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Re: Ranges #100995
01/28/07 12:35 PM
01/28/07 12:35 PM
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George Little  Offline
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Interesting:
12000 KW range would be calculated as following for load.

Start with 8000 and add 1600 (based on Note 1)=9600.

9600/240 = 40a.


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Re: Ranges #100996
01/28/07 01:12 PM
01/28/07 01:12 PM
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dilydalyer  Offline OP
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tks...give me some more studying

Re: Ranges #100997
01/28/07 07:20 PM
01/28/07 07:20 PM
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dilydalyer  Offline OP
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But don't u think I could not treat the only range in the house,let's say a 12kw,as an 8kw as far as wire and breaker size?

Re: Ranges #100998
01/28/07 08:23 PM
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George Little  Offline
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Yes


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