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Strange Requests #100639
12/07/06 08:55 AM
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Happi_Man  Offline OP
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At least I think it is. We typically rough in a couple of can lights over the tub but I have a homeowner that wants to have a hanging light instead. I assume I would have to GFI protect it but are there any other issues, e.g. damp location issues. Would the light have to be a particular style?

They also want a duplex receptacle and a coax outlet on the wall above the tub as well. Any issues there besides GFI protection?

I don't understand people sometimes. Ha ha...I told them to be sure and get a TV with a REAL short cord...

Thanks for your input.
Mike

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Re: Strange Requests #100640
12/07/06 10:00 AM
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The pendant light has to be at least 8' above the tub, or be at least 3' away from the outside edge of it.

410.4 (D)

The light DOES NOT have to be GFCI protected. In my opinion I think it should be, but that's not what the Code calls for.

Think about it. You're in a bathroom, you just got out of the shower, you're wet, the bulb goes out and u decide to change it right then and there. That's an accidential shock just waiting to happen.

[This message has been edited by ShockMe77 (edited 12-07-2006).]

Re: Strange Requests #100641
12/07/06 10:34 AM
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NEC 410.4(D) says 'NO' to the hanging light unless no part of it is less than 8' above the TOP of the tub. I doubt that you would have the ceiling height to pull that one off.
I'd ask the AHJ if he would prohibit a receptacle based on NEC 406.8(C); the local interpretations vary.
I like the GFCI idea, even if your local Codes don't require it. It looks better in court when this doofus gets a shock while in the tub. Some jurisdictions call for GFCI for nearly everything in the room.


Ghost307
Re: Strange Requests #100642
12/07/06 11:23 AM
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iwire  Offline
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They also want a duplex receptacle and a coax outlet on the wall above the tub as well. Any issues there besides GFI protection?


Receptacles GFCI protected or not can not be installed in tub or shower spaces.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: Strange Requests #100643
12/07/06 11:45 AM
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Steve T  Offline
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This TV in the tub area is becoming very popular it seems. All receptacles in a bathroom are required to be GFCI protected. Receptacles are not allowed in the tub area.
The code requires receptacles within five feet of a hydromassage tub be GFCI protected. (I suppose someone could install just a hydromassage tub in a room without a basin, thus the room not being defined as bathroom, and a special requirement for GFCI protection[680.71], but I've never seen that).

Tub area in regards to receptacles is not clearly defined in the code, so an interpretation is needed.

The light situation is clear.


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