Tiger, did you mean attitude or altitude. [Linked Image]

Then considering your post why is there diferent wording in the two paragraphs or even the need for two paragraphs?

What if there were a 20' wide by 8" high patio completely surrounding the house, unless you have extremely long arms you will not be able to access them from the "ground", and due to the fact that most of us have minamalistic length arms [Linked Image] what would you say?

BTW, the reason for the topic isn't my problem if you're wondering, I don't do residential.

Roger