Hi,
Geo- I do NOT speak with a forked tongue!
you are good at twisting things up!
I NEVER said what you just posted!
You may want to re-read the post.
What i said was that according to the VERY CLEAR NEC that ANY NEW installs had to be AFCI. that means ANY Extension of the circuit or ANY NEW OUTLETS..i want to hear you justify extending a circuit in a bedroom as not being NEW!
If you go to a 100 year old house and want to ADD an outlet in a bedroom THAT OUTLET MUST BE AFCI. so to meet that requirement AFCI must be added. How would you purpose to do that?
There are no AFCI receptacles...so the whole circuit would then have to be AFCI protected..just because the panel is a two wire panel or KNOB and tube or the panel wont accept is STILL not allowed! The code did that so that the PANEL WOULD GET UPGRADED!
I am guessing that you are an inspector..if you allow ANYBODY to extend or install A NEW OUTLET IN A BEDROOM and it is not AFCI protected you are NOT following the same NEC as the rest of us. Maybe you decide what is right or wrong where you are and that is fine.
I guess if you go to a house to change the service out to a new one you don't go in and add laundry circuits, GFCI or anything else? If you do you are VIOLATING THE CODE! The intent is that when a service change is needed and there is no GFCI or laundry circuits then, at the time of service upgrade you need to bring the rest of the dwelling into compliance! A lot of homeowners don't like this but when else would it get done?
I will send a request for clarification to the NEC and let you know what THEY say.
thats what I said or tried to say..
it seemed to me in your post you were either misinterpreting or trying to put your spin on it.
pretty simple stuff, but I just wanted to clear up a lot of BS that gets posted by some folks who should really know better!
nothing personal and I am not picking on you...it is just that you admit to making broad statements and in several post of yours you are DEAD WRONG!!
I will be glad to match wits with you any day of the week! All in good fun though!
-regards
Greg
[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 03-16-2005).]
Greg
I don't want not put words in your mouth so let me ask are you saying that when I do a heavy up of the service I am required to add laundry, small appliance, bathroom basin, and any other circuit I would be required to install in new construction? That would certainly be an effective way to force electrical upgrading work into the gray market.
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Tom Horne
