slumlord, I have to agree with John. Wages are way to tough a thing to discuss. Way to many variables to the equation. In New England I have apprentices working with me that make more than the figure you posted. Every area of the country is going to be different. The cost of living makes a big difference. It is high here in Massachusetts. I hope you don't take this as a smart xxx answer.

Al

[This message has been edited by capt al (edited 11-24-2004).]