Thanks Tesla, I'll post pictures as soon as I get my other computer up and running, this one had me stumped, and only the dead short at the bx feed, then every thing worked except I still had a short from the white to the box bond egc, the overload? probably finally melted the bx to where it was bolted and not resettable, but there was no smell of burning in any of the three boxes that had charred wires, and no soot up the wall as I have seen in other boxes that had charring.....so would a lightning flash burnoff the insulation without charring in side of box?