went well, and I did learn something new...

problem was in the cable side...because some TV's were using digital HD boxes and others weren't...

apparently the filters that are used, basically filter out the digital signals.

so we had to split everything into three groups

digital
regular cable
satellite

once we did that, we could run digital and satellite as we were

but then we filtered the satellite and ran it backwards through a splitter with the cable. then the one cable going to the TV worked like a charm running both satellite and cable.