thanks guys, i just want to do the right job, and not "this is the way it has always been done". new work construction is a lot easier, in that you can build your support if the stud isn't where the customer wants his device. but with old work, it is sometimes hard to convince him(or her) that they will have to get someone to spackle and paint for that one outlet in the dining room, and the paint is hard to match, etc....
