i know what you guys mean, and if they want to play hard ball then bring it on. Iam not a little kid and i am tired of the games. I am getting copies of osha documents and anything else i can to cover my ass. I told them yesterday this is not a witch hunt we aren't out to get the guy fired or prove a point to management. Its the simple fact that i told them if this guy continues to do stuff like this he is going to get some one killed not injured killed. I told the HR lady i don't wan't my wife getting that call and have to explain it to my 4 kids. Our last boss was a good guy every time he came up to a machine you were working on first thing he ask was is it locked out if not he would say lock it out.