I thought that even though the Commodore products (Vic 20, c-64, c-128) were sold in Toy stores that they fairly sophisticated. They had some self-learning programs that taught basic programming and I found them quite interesting. Through 'peeks' and 'pokes' we could create new characters (and control individual pixels) and sounds. Even though the 'serious' people had machines like the Pet, XT, or AT they seemed quit envious of what the C-64 could do with Color and Sound. It was a lot of fun.
Bill