Rat,

"Sleeving" in this sense is not an option in my book..."

Funny story about that, we hired a guy that came to us with good recommendations, the first day on the job, i get a call from the app working with him, you better get over here now, don't wait until noon, When i get there, he is sleeving the pipe over the cable, as it turned out he never had any formal trainning at all, just one of those guys that worked for a lot of different EC's, and picked up a few very bad habits, considering he was working harder then he had to , and had a family to support, i gave him a choice go back to school, and stay with us, or pay for last day, he went back to school and a year later left us to move on to a better paying position.

[This message has been edited by LK (edited 11-18-2005).]