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#99938 - 09/27/06 04:08 PM Basement receptacle  
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Does the inspector allow a 120v. 15a. duplex receptacle to go non-GFCI protected if it is located on the 8 foot ceiling of an unfinished basement and the only thing plugged into it is a power vent for a water heater?


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#99939 - 09/27/06 04:21 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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Maybe, if it's changed to a single receptacle instead of duplex.


#99940 - 09/27/06 04:30 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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How tall are the residents? Can they reach it without a ladder?

It all gets down to the definition of "readily accessible"
210.8(A)(5)ex1


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#99941 - 09/27/06 04:48 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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I agree with Yanici. Have them swap out the duplex receptacle for a single 120v/ 15a single receptacle. This way it is clear that the receptacles purpose is strictly for the power vent. A receptacle in an 8' ceiling is IMO not readily accessible.

[This message has been edited by ShockMe77 (edited 09-27-2006).]


#99942 - 09/28/06 12:05 AM Re: Basement receptacle  
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+1 for the "dedicated" single receptacle.


#99943 - 09/28/06 02:11 AM Re: Basement receptacle  
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Intersting, Since the 8' ceiling is "readily accessible" to you guys, could this be the ONLY receptacle in the basement if it was GFCI?


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#99944 - 09/28/06 08:29 AM Re: Basement receptacle  
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If this is the only receptacle in the basement, why not spend the $8 and put in a duplex GFCI so it can be used for general purpose? We can debate the letter of the law here, but we all know that dedicated simplex receptacle is going to sport a splitter and extension cord within a few months. Might as well look after the public safety here and err on the side of caution.

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#99945 - 09/28/06 06:54 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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Enforced here:
Sump, wtr htr, condensate pump,alarm, cent vac, etc.; in an unfinished basement area are single receptacles. Min. one (1) GFI duplex within each unfinished area(s).

John


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#99946 - 09/28/06 08:07 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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John, would a duplex receptacle be acceptable in an unfinished basement if the receptacle served (2) condensate pumps serving the same furnace?


#99947 - 09/28/06 08:10 PM Re: Basement receptacle  
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Nevermind.

210.8 (5) Exception No. 2


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