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Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38283
05/19/04 09:23 PM
05/19/04 09:23 PM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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What is the most common cause of an emergency generator not shutting off after normal power is restored? Could it be something hanging up in the transfer switch?

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Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38284
05/19/04 09:27 PM
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Attic Rat  Offline
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...Is there a latching relay??


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Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38285
05/19/04 09:29 PM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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I'm not certain, please explain.

Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38286
05/19/04 09:51 PM
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Ralpha494  Offline
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Pewaukee,WI,USA
Some have a time delay so you have to have power restored for a pre-determined time. It could also not be recognizing the return of normal power. Who knows? It might not be an automatic.

Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38287
05/19/04 09:56 PM
05/19/04 09:56 PM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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I'm going back to it early tomorrow morning. I'm also going to check for stable utility power. I've just read if utility power is not stable it will not switch back.

Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38288
05/19/04 09:58 PM
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fla sparkey  Offline
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Winter Haven, Florida USA
You don't say if this is a service call or a new install. I would get the manual out and be sure the clock is programmed correctly and the dip switches are set right. Check the wiring diagrams too.

Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38289
05/19/04 10:23 PM
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George Corron  Offline
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Lorton, Va USA
You may also want to check your return to normal delays (could be extended, I prefer 5 minutes minimum) and your cool down cycle, I prefer 15 minutes on larger units of over 100 kw. I have seen factory defaults of 1/2 hour each meaning an hour for retransfer and cool down, IOW it may be shutting down, just taking one heck of a long time to do it, some customers don't understand these things and panic.

Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38290
05/20/04 04:26 AM
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iwire  Offline
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North Attleboro, MA USA
We have had two very new (less than a year) Onan transfer switches cause generators to run when normal power was fin.

Both times a electronic board in the ATS went bad.

One Generator ran for 126 hours the other for TWO WEEKS! they where natural gas units so fuel was not an issue.


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Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38291
05/20/04 06:40 AM
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Ron  Offline
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White Plains, NY
I also agree that it is probably a relay or control board.

Bob,
Were these nat. gas units life safety? Do they allow nat. gas units for life safety in your area?


Ron
Re: Emergency Generator Not Shutting Off #38292
05/20/04 06:54 AM
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Fullerton, CA USA
...Well, we had a customer who put his in "test", and left it on all weekend, then couldn't figure out why it didn't turn off [Linked Image]

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