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Photos #34747
02/22/04 06:12 PM
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phosgene  Offline OP
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Anybody know whwere I can find photos of professionally installed service panels showing inside the panel. Need to show how it SHOULD look.

I checked out the photo area and didn't come across any.

Thanks.

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Re: Photos #34748
02/22/04 07:10 PM
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russ m  Offline
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http://www.mikeholt.com/codeforum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=001845#000000

Re: Photos #34749
02/22/04 08:15 PM
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NJwirenut  Offline
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Nice looking install, but how does it work without an incoming power feed? [Linked Image]

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02/22/04 08:30 PM
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russ m  Offline
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I think Ed said that the bottom portion of the panel has a metal cover over the supply conductors, per the Canadian Electrical Code

Re: Photos #34751
02/22/04 08:56 PM
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NJwirenut  Offline
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Whoops! Didn't notice the metal cover at first glance....

Kinda nice though, we should have those on SqD panels here in the USA....

Re: Photos #34752
04/28/04 10:08 PM
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rbad  Offline
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Morris County, NJ
Here are some pics of my own house.


After an injury, I stopped doing installations and now strictly do computer forensic analysis for LE agencies and provide web and mail hosting. (all of the gear is in the basement of my house(

I pre-wired it, but had to move all of the service equipment midway right before completion. I also installed a manual transfer switch with separate load center to use with my gasoline powered Honda 8kw generator.

I finally got tired of wheeling out the genset and starting it in the rain, so I went the route of a buying an inexpensive Generac Guardian w/ a bundled ATS just a few months ago.

I would have done most of the extra work w/ EMT, but have ruptured/herniated 4 discs (while performing training for my volunteer fire dept) since we built the house, so I was lucky just to get this job done at all.

We also ran a ton of cat5-e cable and RG6 quad sheilded coax during the pre-wire.
(structured cabling + security system + fire alarm cabling + environmental controls = 155,000' of wire !)

BTW: I ran carlon non-metalic flex (blue corrugated stuff) from each and every "structured wiring" box down to the basement and up to the attic. (and ran the actual cabling ALONGSIDE the carlon nm flex. (leaving it empty for future use - for fiber, etc...)

I also ran a ton of 1-1/2" pvc conduit from basement to attic in multiple spots. I also ran a bunch of empty "vac pipe" from the telcom room to the attic for future use.

The poco had already ran underground aluminum triplex (direct burial -- NO CONDUIT) about 300' to a pad mounted xformer mounted across the street and down a few houses. It feeds 6 houses and they refused to upgrade me to a 400amp service.

When my a/c condenser units kick on, the lights dim in the house, but they claim that they are within the 110-127vac range per leg...


Here are some pics:


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Re: Photos #34753
04/28/04 10:11 PM
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rbad  Offline
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Morris County, NJ
continued....

[Linked Image]


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[This message has been edited by rbad (edited 04-28-2004).]

Re: Photos #34754
04/28/04 10:13 PM
04/28/04 10:13 PM
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rbad  Offline
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Morris County, NJ
continued....

[Linked Image]

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Feel free to critique !

AND.... Thanks for ECN and Bill!!! That's where I gained most of my knowledge over the past few years.

Oh yeah.... Here are the rest of the pics:
(alot of junk mixed in though....)


http://216.91.16.122/index.php?cat=7

and
http://www.web-comm.com/ool

Re: Photos #34755
04/28/04 10:31 PM
04/28/04 10:31 PM
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A Beauty!
Nice job!
Thanks for the post!

Re: Photos #34756
04/29/04 09:42 AM
04/29/04 09:42 AM
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rbad  Offline
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Morris County, NJ
Thanks Kent!

I'm still working on cleaning everything up...

and.. , after reading another post here, I just realized that I should NOT have doubled up the wires under the neutral screws. (I'll be yanking them out today and placing only one wire under each screw.


Also... the "bundle" of NM on the right hand side (strapped w/ blue wire ties) is just a dozen or so of 12/2 and 12/3 "spares" running to each attic.
(there are 2 separate attics)

What does the code say about having unterminated spares at each location.

ie: should they be brought into a box at each end, stripped down and all wires be "capped off" w/ wire nuts?..

In the attics, I just have them coiled up and hanging from straps on the rafters.

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(oh yeah... someone from here e-mailed me asking why I left in the manual transfer switch on the right hand side)

I left that in place (wired between the ATS load side and the feed to the "emergency load sub-panel") so that if the Generac genset fails, I can always use my gasoline powered gensets located on the opposite side of the house. (they are in the garage and have to be wheeled outside to be run)

A few years ago, I piped out to that location and ran 6/3+gnd to an weatherproof enclosure out there w/ a male twistlock for the gasoline genset. (Honda ES-6500 and an EU3000 inverter based genset just for the computer loads)


I'll tell you something... Without this forum, I would have never been able to complete this task. Thanks again!

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