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#2781 - 07/25/01 07:23 PM Is It Safe?  
sparky  Offline
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NOTE; This Q is borrowed , July CEE article by Bill

I get the Q all the time, "Is It Safe" from customers. I have not as yet honed my response into a 'one phase fits all' response.

I am curious as to how the rest of trade responds...

will appologies to Bill here, it's a worthy Q...

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#2782 - 07/25/01 07:40 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
bhester  Offline
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 38
Most cases you can't see all the work done so when I hear Is It safe ,well ,since I can't see everything it would be hard to say if it was safe or dangerous.But where I work they all want the information, they don't want to pay to check it out,so no money ,no check.

#2783 - 07/25/01 08:14 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
sparky  Offline
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well bhester....
maybe an advertized 'safety check' would fly when it's slow????

#2784 - 07/25/01 09:52 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
Redsy  Offline
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,056
Bucks County PA
Safe is a relative term and the question is subjective.
Ask 5 sparkys, get 5 different answers.
I think the best thing to do is tell people what you would do if it was yours.

#2785 - 07/25/01 11:27 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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Posts: 3,878

I felt my "Ears Burning" and had to add a comment.

I'm glad that you liked the article (you did, right?). BTW, "Is it Safe?" was the original title I had for the Article.

To further our Q here, take a look at this page and what the basis of the Court argument was ("Last Clear Chance"). Can this be applied to our situation?

Food for thought?


[This message has been edited by Bill Addiss (edited 07-25-2001).]

#2786 - 07/26/01 02:00 AM Re: Is It Safe?  
sparky  Offline
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Posts: 5,311
definite thinking material!
i quess we need to stay somewhere inbettween blatant ingnorance and carpetbagging in expression of our observations.

#2787 - 07/26/01 05:28 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
Tom  Offline
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,044
Shinnston, WV USA

After reading about that case, I have little sympathy for someone who would put themselves in that position. BTW, as far as I know, the doctrine of "Last Clear Chance" does not apply in every state.

Evidently, we must protect all people from their own stupidity at all times. I thought that the law of natural selection should apply in these cases so that these folks couldn't contribute to the gene pool. [Linked Image]

Anyhow, when I see something I don't feel I can keep quiet about, I tell the customer & if they don't want it fixed, I make sure to put a description of the problem on their invoice.

For grins, try the following site regarding the Darwin Awards

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

#2788 - 07/26/01 10:32 PM Re: Is It Safe?  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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Posts: 3,878

I like your Link, [Linked Image]
I often wonder where lines get drawn. With laws like the "Good Samaritan" law it's not much of a stretch to finding us responsible for problems we see but do not fix. Maybe we should get paid before we come in the front door? [Linked Image]


#2789 - 07/27/01 12:48 AM Re: Is It Safe?  

I thought the "Good Samaritan" was a moral teaching. Is it now against the law not to choose to help people?

#2790 - 07/27/01 12:58 AM Re: Is It Safe?  

By the way, the "Good Samaritan" laws I've heard of on this end of the country are intended to shield from liability those who do their best when they intervene, not find them liable for not helping. The problem is, an electrician is a professional not a layman when it comes to knowing electrical hazards.

I'm sure automobile mechanics face the same thing when a person wants a bald tire patched, a tire changed when the brakes are worn out, and so forth. They usually list this as recommended work, do they not? My local garage has a preprinted place on their form for this very thing.

"Numerous other electrical hazards should be remediated promptly."

[This message has been edited by Dspark (edited 07-27-2001).]

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