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Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20421
01/13/03 11:06 PM
01/13/03 11:06 PM
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jlhmaint  Offline OP
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Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
Can you guys send me in the right direction. Guy at work ask me what size of a disconnect he would need to put in so that he could put in a generator in garage and feed his house.

What is code on this and were is it at in code book i havent had chance to look up and havent had much exposer to this but have also considered doing this at home.

I am industrial electrical maintenance man and haven't had much residential experience. but i do have code book and follow best i can at work and have 8yr experience but i don't want to tell him anything wrong and i think he wants me to do the work.

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Re: Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20422
01/13/03 11:12 PM
01/13/03 11:12 PM
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iwire  Offline
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North Attleboro, MA USA
Not enough info, but the disconnect would be based on the generator size.

More important is how to keep the two power sources separate.

Do not back feed the utility, you can Kill linemen.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20423
01/13/03 11:19 PM
01/13/03 11:19 PM
sparky66wv  Offline
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West Virginia
Jerry,

To make things simpler, you can get a transfer switch board that has 6 circuits (for 20A 120/240V plug on genny) or 10 circuits (for 30A 120/240V genny) and are set up for 4-wire portable generators for ease-of-installation.

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If they already have the generator, size the transfer switch board, twist-lock plugs and SOW cable for the size of the largest 120/240 V outlet on the genny, and there you have it.

The pairs of lines and loads are numbered and get hooked in series with the breakers to the circuits you want on the genny. The neutral and EGC go the the proper busses.

Connect the cord and you're all set!

The grounding electrodes of the dwelling are used and no other rod is needed.

Now, if they want to run anything over 20A, then I'm no help and go see the thread I started tonight!

-Virgil

PS: If I have any of this wrong, PLEASE correct me! (I'm testing myself to see if I have all this straight)

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[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 01-13-2003).]


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Re: Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20424
01/13/03 11:28 PM
01/13/03 11:28 PM
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jlhmaint  Offline OP
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Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
sparky thanks for the info

iwire that is what i was wondering about don't you have to put in a disconnect before lets say the home 200amp panel so you can disconnect from the utility company so that you dont back feed the line and at what % is this sized compared to the say 200amp panel.

Re: Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20425
01/13/03 11:43 PM
01/13/03 11:43 PM
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iwire  Offline
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jlhmaint,
sparky66wvs Info is great and is cheaper by far then full-sized transfer switch Manual or Auto.

Transfer switch size would be based on highest current from either source so
200 amp main panel 30 amp Genset = 200amp transfer switch. Expensive and you still would need to buy more.

Reliance Makes a couple of panels 100 and 200 amp that have 2 mains 1 for Normal 1 for emergency that are mechanically interlocked so only 1 can close at a time.
UL listed for GE Square D and Siemens Breakers.

More Money then Gen Tran switch less then transfer, good solution for larger Gensets
and limited space



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Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: Putting in a disconnect for generator help please? #20426
01/13/03 11:49 PM
01/13/03 11:49 PM
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iwire  Offline
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North Attleboro, MA USA
If you have not worked with them, a transfer switch is just a double or triple pole, double throw switch that separates normal from emergency automatically or manually


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts

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