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#194608 - 06/13/10 09:27 PM 3-ways in stairs  
romex2121  Offline
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per the 2008 NEC how many steps need to be present to justify a 3-way system,,, example 2, 4, 6,

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#194611 - 06/13/10 10:23 PM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: romex2121]  
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210.70 (a)(2)(c) provides the answer...

"(c) Where one or more lighting outlet(s) are installed for interior stairways, there shall be a wall switch at each floor level, and landing level that includes an entryway, to control the lighting outlet(s) where the stairway between floor levels has six risers or more. "


#194805 - 06/23/10 04:15 AM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: HotLine1]  
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your local building code may have more to say on the switching requirements

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#195137 - 07/13/10 04:08 AM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: sparkyinak]  
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A lot of what I am seeing these days is not actual switches, but PIR switching on stairwells.
Where as a given flight of stairs might have a sensor on it, it will trigger on movement at the bottom of the stairs and also trigger a delay timer at the top of that set of stairs, that energises the next PIR (and lights) and turns off the lower lighting.
If it saves lights being left on all night,, I'm all for it.

Having said that, in fire situations, it's all lights on.

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#195150 - 07/13/10 01:33 PM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: Trumpy]  
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I like motion lights. The light follows you around my house, inside and out.

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#195425 - 08/02/10 04:06 PM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: gfretwell]  
Alan Belson  Offline
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My wife follows me round the house switching them off, which is nearly the same but with added mutterings about utility bills laugh ! Seriously, you could lose all the cost saving advantages of low-energy lights if the switch timers are of too short a duration. They don't like short runs.

Wood work but can't!

#195427 - 08/02/10 05:46 PM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: Alan Belson]  
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I thought that was true but I have CFLs in the motion lights in my garage, the post light out front and one of the lights inside. They seem to be holding up OK.

Greg Fretwell

#200306 - 03/28/11 09:33 AM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: romex2121]  
harold endean  Offline
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Do you really need a 3 way switch at the top and bottom of the stairs when the stairway goes into an attic? smile

#200308 - 03/28/11 09:58 AM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: romex2121]  
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It will depend on the definition/use of the 'attic'.

Pull down stairs for access to the space I would say only a switch at the entry, walk-up stairs to a space that could be 'occupied' may require a 3-way. Intent and design fall into the discussion at that point.


#203286 - 09/18/11 11:02 PM Re: 3-ways in stairs [Re: romex2121]  
mikethebull  Offline
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Rhode Island
PIR switches are nice but they have to have regular switching. So as not to leave anyone in darkness.

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