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#167344 - 08/10/07 06:52 PM Subcontractors  
sid123456  Offline
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I will be starting to work on my own within the next few weeks as my corporate filing and licensures are finalized. I was thinking of working with just myself and a helper, when my service manager approached me and wanted to bring him and our other top service electrician in to work for me. I am considering this, but I can't come to a rate of pay for them, because I'm not sure what kind of day to day business I will have myself.

Has anyone ever paid electricians as subcontractors, and at what commission?

Business, Office, Estimating, Legal:

#167348 - 08/10/07 07:15 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: sid123456]  
ITO  Offline
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A word of advice... don't go there it wont work like you think it should.

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#167350 - 08/10/07 07:18 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: ITO]  
sid123456  Offline
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Thanks for the input ITO....

#167359 - 08/10/07 08:16 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: ITO]  
LK  Offline
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New Jersey
Originally Posted by ITO
A word of advice... don't go there it wont work like you think it should.

Good advice!

Hope your not depending on any residential, work to boom, it's starting to nose dive, and the banks are on the run, if it's anything like the 70's bust, it took 2 1/2 years to recover, try to have some solid contracts, before you jump in the pool. Commercial is still pretty strong, but that may feel the pinch soon.

#167362 - 08/10/07 08:25 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: LK]  
sid123456  Offline
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Service is great where I'm at....

#167366 - 08/10/07 08:40 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: LK]  
copper  Offline
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I wonder how this mortgage fall out will effect the Service business?

Last edited by copper; 08/10/07 08:41 PM. Reason: speling

"If your going to be stupid, You gotta be tough"

#167368 - 08/10/07 09:01 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: copper]  
LK  Offline
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New Jersey
It will spread, if they don't let the market adjust, the feds just printed up some money today, to prop up an already retreating market.

Many of this present generation has not seen the economy run backwards, it's been a while.

Back in the 70's we had contractors taking jobs in plants, working at anything they could find, the work just dried up, and the few that were working, were at reduced hours.

I remenber well because, I went to an auction almost every week, back then.

#167394 - 08/11/07 05:56 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: sid123456]  
Niko  Offline
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Campbell, CA
At least here in CA, if a person is told what to do, in what manner to do it, what time to show up, is supervised, is provided material and does not have contractors license, then that person is an employee and can not be treated as a sub contractor.

If the same person is given a set of plans,the total amount is aggreed on, the finish time is stated and the person has a contractors license then the person can act as one.

Be kind to your neighbor, he knows where you live

#167419 - 08/12/07 09:55 AM Re: Subcontractors [Re: Niko]  
PE&Master  Offline
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In TX, you cannot be a subcontractor w/o first being a licensed contractor.

To hire anybody other than an employee, they must be licensed as a contractor. Having a JW license or even a masters license does not make them a contractor. Contractors are required to have workers comp, liability insurance etc.

If your insurance company finds out your subcontracting out work they will require to see your sub's insurance. If they don't have it, your insurance company will bill you for the added risk to carry the subcontractor.

It's unlikely you'll have enough work to start a business with serveral employees on day one. I wouldn't want to do it even if I could have.

#167573 - 08/15/07 06:16 PM Re: Subcontractors [Re: PE&Master]  
sid123456  Offline
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Thank you all for your input.

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