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Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15761
10/29/02 02:06 PM
10/29/02 02:06 PM
Happi_Man  Offline OP
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 206
Columbus, Ohio - USA
Anyone ever heard of this. I got a guy who wants to finish his basement. He wants us to install baseboard heating and put the switch on a motion sensor so that the heat will kick on only when someone is down there. Strange but a unique idea I guess. Do they make a 220V Motion switch?

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Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15762
10/29/02 02:59 PM
10/29/02 02:59 PM
sparky  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,340
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Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15763
10/29/02 03:02 PM
10/29/02 03:02 PM
elektrikguy  Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 132
intersting concept. Doesn't sound that easy to me. Assuming you can find a 220v motion detector rated for the application. He would have to make periodic trips to the beer fridge to keep the heat going. hmmm. maybe not a bad idea when I think about it.

Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15764
10/29/02 03:28 PM
10/29/02 03:28 PM
Trainwire  Offline
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 360
Piece of cake.

My local hardware store sells "stand alone" motion sensors, you wire them into your existing light. Stick one of those up in the corner of the room opposite the door, and wire it to a 120v coil of a contactor rated for the heaters. If you feed the heaters with 3 wire, then you can snitch the 120 off of one of the heater feeds. ( using the right size wire of course.) materials: motion sensor, contactor, box to hold it all, hand full of wire.
Oh yea, the sensor will have to have its "dusk to dawn" feature disabled, but most have a setting or a "test" feature that will do that.

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Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15765
10/29/02 03:28 PM
10/29/02 03:28 PM
JBD  Offline
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 599
Why not use a standard 120V motion sensor and have it feed a power relay. I like the Relay In a Box (RIB) devices from Functional Devices.

Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15766
10/29/02 06:41 PM
10/29/02 06:41 PM
Electricmanscott  Offline
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,457
Holden, MA USA
What about a thermostat with a setback. They make many types. One has a photcell. When it is light the heat is on at the full setting. When the light is gone it goes to the setback temp.

Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15767
10/29/02 09:41 PM
10/29/02 09:41 PM
jlhmaint  Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 202
Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
hasn't he ever heard of the theory that is more efficient and cost effective to keep the room at a constant temp rather than trying to heat it up when you need it.

Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15768
10/30/02 12:05 AM
10/30/02 12:05 AM
sparky66wv  Offline
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,236
West Virginia
Valid point, Jerry.

Had a call last year about this time from a medical billing company. They want(ed) to be able to have a "little" space heater in each one of the cubicles.

After trying in vain to explain to them the scope of what they were asking, I asked why they couldn't just turn the thermostat up a few notches?

No, they'd rather run 24 1500W heaters all winter long...

Lessee: 1500W x 24 units x 12 hours per day x 20 days per month / 1000 to convert to KWh x $0.08 per KWh...

Uh, (*tapity-tapity-click-click*)that's uh, $691.20 per month in Power not counting the sub-panel, receptacles, and all the other work involved... (If I got the math right...)



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Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15769
10/30/02 04:11 AM
10/30/02 04:11 AM
Joe Carpenter  Offline
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 50
I would also incorpoarate a timed relay into the control circuit in conjunction with the motion sensor. That way When person enters the room heater comes on. Lets say man becomes immobile and motion sensor goes off. Timed relay would keep heater on for a preset length of time (10 min. for example) after man becomes immobile. This would avoid heater short cycling. and man stays warm. If man would come back to life before preset relay's time is up, motion sensor would kick in again, thus resetting the system and avoid interruption in heat.

Re: Baseboard Heating on a Motion Sensor #15770
10/30/02 08:45 PM
10/30/02 08:45 PM
go-go  Offline
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 42
[Linked Image] I think it might take just a little longer than 10 min. to heat a room.

[This message has been edited by go-go (edited 10-30-2002).]

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