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#151855 - 05/12/03 12:08 AM Old Time Service Installation  
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[Linked Image]

Did anyone here install one of these?

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Lineman Bill's Old Time Lineman's Website

Thanks Bill [Linked Image]

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#151856 - 05/12/03 06:52 AM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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SI,New Zealand
What on earth is that heading down into that meter base??.
Is that an early form of BX?.(hope I've got the terms right, this time). [Linked Image]

#151857 - 05/12/03 01:54 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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La Junta, Co. USA
Trumpy, that cable is called a SE cable, and is still allowed by code. See article 338.

Have I installed any?? No, but torn out a bunch.

The size of the one in the picture would not pass today, as 100amps is the minimum for a dwelling, but way back then, a 30 amp service could be installed. I would be willing to bet that the service is just 110volts, too! Grounded? probably not. What about the disconnect? It is probably located above the kitchen door (2 fuses at most) or, God the bathroom, over the tub?

At least the installers have the proper PPE, except for face shields!!!!

Rick Miell

#151858 - 05/12/03 03:10 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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Wharton, Texas, USA
I wonder of that's SE cable exiting the bottom of the meter can, headed for the Breaker (or fuse, possibly) panel?

Something doesn't click's so much larger than what's coming into the can [Linked Image].

Mike (mamills)

#151859 - 05/12/03 04:35 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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I'd guess that's conduit going down to a panel either in the basement or low on the inside wall. I've seen many old panels mounted low on the wall at about knee-high, sometimes lower. Not sure why, unless it was to save wire.


#151860 - 05/13/03 08:38 AM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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Milwaukee, WI

Re: what is exiting from the bottom of the meter pan:
Quote's so much larger than what's coming into the can...

The cable coming in was air-insulated, so it could become hot without a big problem. Also, a penny or two in the fuse panel would allow them to use larger cable. The dimming/flickering lights were just part of that new-fangled electric. [Linked Image]

#151861 - 05/14/03 09:15 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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guys belive it or not my home is supplied by old cable like this. but soon to be gone as soon as i get the new 200 amp service tied in. could this have been a 60 amp service at 110?i have a 60 amp 220 service at present.

#151862 - 05/16/03 11:46 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
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Note the non-use of Safety Glasses by the lower worker about to plug the meter in!.
At least he's got his gloves on.
It almost looks like the right side of the ladder is floating in mid air!, due to the light level when the pic was taken. [Linked Image]

#151863 - 05/17/03 12:49 AM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
condenseddave  Offline
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East Stroudsburg, PA USA
I've torn out a few 110V 60 A services, myself, to make way for an ac installation!

Lots of gas appliances in my town.

It's all about integrity.

#151864 - 05/17/03 05:47 PM Re: Old Time Service Installation  
harold endean  Offline
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Posts: 2,233
Boonton, NJ
That meter looks like it is installed pretty high too. Umless the guy on the bottom was real short. [Linked Image] I have seen tons of these types of services. Removed many of them myself. I once worked in a building that had 60 amp. 110 volt service for a 3 family dwelling. Each apt. only had 2 circuits at 15 amp. Not many outlets in this house though everything else was gas.

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