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Identified conductor as common conductor between 3-way switches #102069
12/08/04 09:38 PM
12/08/04 09:38 PM
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foggy  Offline OP
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I know when wiring a 3-way light, a 3-conductor loomex will run between the 2 3-way switches' box, and normally the black one will be chosen as common, and the white and the red ones as travellers. The question is, can I use the white as common, the other two as travellers? I checked the code, but could not find the answer.

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Re: Identified conductor as common conductor between 3-way switches #102070
12/09/04 03:00 PM
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Tony Moscioni  Offline
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4-034 * Three Way Switch Wiring

In some instances, it has been brought to our attention that the grounded circuit conductor is being switched in some three way lighting arrangements that are currently being installed. This is contrary to OESC 4-034, and 14-016 and in the interest of consistency will not be accepted.

Tony Moscioni
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Re: Identified conductor as common conductor between 3-way switches #102071
12/10/04 09:40 PM
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foggy  Offline OP
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Thank you, Tony. CEC4-034(2) says it's not necessary to render the identified conductor if the connections are made so that an unidentified conductor is the return conductor from the switch to the outlet. I made a simple drawing in which I think the circuit is not against the rule. http://www.geocities.com/halosome/fauto/3way.JPG

Re: Identified conductor as common conductor between 3-way switches #102072
12/24/04 12:32 PM
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winnie  Offline
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Tony,

I don't think you misunderstood foggy's question.

Foggy is asking about the color coding of the wires, specifically using a white wire re-identified for use as an ungrounded switched conductor in a three way switching circuit.

The quote that you posted speaks to illegal three way switch circuits where the grounded conductor was switched. The simplest example would be one where you have two switches at two locations, each with a supply grounded and ungrounded conductor and a switched conductor feeding the lamp. Both supply leads are connected to the _traveller_ terminals, and then a conductor run from the _common_ terminal to the light fixture. With two switches you have two conductors, and depending upon switch position either conductor could be grounded or ungrounded. If both conductors are grounded, the lamp is off. If one is grounded and the other ungrounded, then the lamp is on. If both are ungrounded, then the lamp is off again, but electrically live.

-Jon

Re: Identified conductor as common conductor between 3-way switches #102073
12/29/04 01:16 PM
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DYNAMITE  Offline
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4-034 subrule 2 return conductor to outlet or light can not be identified (white)


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