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A little quick to jump to conclusions? Alternate Scenario: The wires sticking out look sure like an irrigation valve LV hookup. That might be an abandoned empty conduit that was just used as a chase because it already went through the wall, maybe even with nothing more than a nipple sticking through to the other side. We certainly cannot predict when a wiring fault may occur and energize everything in the building. Not possible. That's what grounding and bonding's about [This message has been edited by electure (edited 12-13-2004).]
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If conductors are water-cooled then derating isn't required, correct? ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/biggrin.gif) Seriously, though, someone's head should roll over this one!!!!! However, when I look at it real close it appears that the faucet, hose and wires are either out-of-focus or the resolution is a bit less in comparison to the LB, bricks and concrete. May be Photoshopped indeed. [This message has been edited by Sir Arcsalot (edited 12-13-2004).]
No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.
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> quote: We certainly cannot predict when a wiring fault may occur and energize everything in the building.
>Not possible. That's what grounding and bonding's about
That assumes the grounding is better than the visible wiring. If sections were replaced with plastic and not rebonded or if conduit sections pulled apart, plumbing or conduit could get energized...
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"and energize everything in the building"
Please explain how this would happen. And yes, I only mean conductive surfaces, so no, I'm not talking about the drywall or the wood cabinets.
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OK, I missed the 'everything'. In the worst case, however, what if the ground bond from the plumbing was broken/missing and there was either no appliances to reestablish the ground or the appliances were connected by insulating pipe or hoses? This may energize the plumbing. Yes, it is extremely unlikely.
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I just got an email with this pic taken at 2 more angles.
It is definitely not a Photoshop job.
(While you're disconnecting the grounding, don't forget to disconnect the GEC and the main bonding jumper at the service. That conduit, if continuous, is most likely grounded)
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LOL Electure, And yes, I only mean conductive surfaces, so no, I'm not talking about the drywall or the wood cabinets. You have such a way with words. BTW, Live Wood would rule as the name for a Rock Band!.
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[Steve Martin] Whut the hell is that?[/Steve Martin]
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Did anybody check to see if the conductors were all thWn?
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