ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Kitchen Receptacles

We tried to define kitchen, lets try to define "cooking". My personal Proffessional trained Chef, says warming, and general preparation may still cooking! Depending on how the Health Dept. will look at it, it's an area for food preparation, reguardless if you're cooking bread, or warming up a can of Spagetti O's. That line may be drawn by them. So, I maybe would check with them. Also, what's to stop them from crossing over to what most would consider cooking after you left? Sounds like they may be trying to dodge other issues.


Seeing that most cord connected hot, and cold boxes I see in most commercial kitches are in abused shape, I would GFI them. Wouldn't hurt if you did, might if you don't.

Also, if cord connected frequently handled by personnel, maybe OSHA would require GFI.

Oh, the expression is "When PIGS fly"

You guys may convince me to ask for GFCI protection on the receptacles in the "Warming Kitchen" because the print does call it a kitchen albiet a warming kitchen. No exceptions for anything. But you guys are wrong about the pigs flying. I watched Mel's Diner years ago when Flo, Vera and Alice were the waitresses and Flo always used to say something would happen "When donkeys fly" Come on some of you ole timers back me up on this.

George,

In my opinion, if the prints call it a Kitchen I think you should treat it as such.

Bill

BTW, both Pigs and Donkeys fly depending on the source.

http://www.goenglish.com/WhenPigsFly.asp
http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/alice.htm

steve

George, be nice to the contractor and word the requirement in some way that allows him/her to re-coup the change if he needs to/should do it.... The point cost would go up a bit. I have never been a fan of the GFI, like some have. But, the the next time you're there, hug a big warming box, and imagine it with a hot ground. And, also imagine everyone a different phase. It's the only reason I suggest it.

But "pigs", just rings better.
As a sentance, 3 sylables work better as a reply. (From one person to another)

With "donkeys" it messes up the rythem, and begs for a relpy to it, or as a reply to another verse, or stance.

Ya, I'll be gentle with him on the GFCI thing and Thanks Steve for the verification on the donkeys thingee.