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Judging by the nice, solid piece of wood that was installed just to mount the pancake box on, I'd say a fan is probably of good guess. Either that, or a really big chandelier.
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Nice looking work but ...
The pancake box issue observed by others.
In the first picture to the left it appears that 2 cables go through each hole. Elsewhere it appears there is only 1 cable through each hole.
The staples appear to be spaced at 16".
So many wires, so few subpanels?
Issues like those brings up questions about the competence of the worker that can only be resolved by being on site.
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If I could inspect work like this everyday, it would make my day a lot easier.
We can only look at the pictures as we see them and not make any assumptions as to panels and whatnot. Lets give this guy credit where credit is due.
I have yet in all my years seen the perfect job.
Pierre
Pierre Belarge
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I wonder who the slob was that ran the fire and LV in the first picture?
-Hal
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Would the fixture canopy bring the pancake into compliance? Probably not. Only if it is listed with its volume can it be used for the purpose of box fill. I don't have my book here, but I know there is an exception in art. 314 (exception 4???) that says that a non-listed domed fixture can be used to deduct up to four conductors and 1 EGC that originate from the domed fixture, but even still I very, very seldom see a light that is listed with its capacity.
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The wiring is some of the neatest i've ever seen. This guy is a Craftsman for sure.
Just curious,what's with all the Ferncos on the plumbing?
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It is cast iron pipe, that is why all the no hub bands.
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In defense of the pancake box, the EC wasn't sure of the finished edge of the ceiling. The were talking about plaster, sheetrock, etc. The are also talking about a large decorative medalion around the box. He can protect the wires using an Arlington plastic extension ring that can be trimmed down and will add cu. in. to the pancake box. We will just have to see on the final inspection.
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I figured the Caper had a plan on those pancakes. I was thinking "ring" too or maybe that was just a place holder for the box they will end up with.
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" It is cast iron thats why all the no-hub bands"
I guess things are different there. We can't use no-hubs concealed like that.
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