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well Electricmanscott, you know more than this particular cigar chompin' beer bellied guru of human submersion......
i took a good look around, it's waaaay out 200' away from the house in a field, no power lines or other local influences...
drove the rods, and figured it's a cheap $$$ for said blowhards silence....
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I guess if they're payin' your playin' A little more money for the coffee fund!
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Bill, I am in Long Island as well. Have you ever seen a pool built without rebar? I did a job in Northport where the in ground pool was poured concrete just like a foundation for a house but no rebar. All I could bond was the ladder and deck box.
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ts,
I don't see too many concrete pools being built at all. My neighbor just had a poured concrete (w/rebar) pool put in though. Most of what I see has metal frames and some plastic.
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Lets just go one step farther with this issue. How about rebar in the concrete patio/walkway around the pool. Does that "Have" to be bonded?
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Good Question. It doesn't seem to me that it would be required (not a bad idea though IMO) unless the rebar is somehow exposed somewhere and within 5 ft of the pool.
I say that because 680.26(B)(5) only mentions metal items (not part of pool) must be bonded within 5 ft unless "separated by a permanent barrier" Would you agree that concrete would be considered a permanent barrier?
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Guys
What do you do when the pool structure is a much better grounding electrode than the grounding electrode in use at the home and the EGC to the pool equipment is picking up current from some neighbors service?
I just upsized the EGC in the raceway so that the difference measured between the ground of an extension cord run from the house and the pool bond was less than two volts. It eliminated the complaint but it still made me uneasy. The home owner harassed the utility for weeks until they came and checked the adjacent properties and found an open neutral on a neighbors garage service lateral. That is one of the few places that I have seen the use of a separate out building service lateral from the same meter.
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"This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous for general use" Thomas Alva Edison
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another good point Tom.
then you have more than bonding, you have a GE, and GEC's that are in the path of the serving x-former....
would 250.6(B) apply??
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What about sec. 680.26 (B)(1)? Would that mean that the rebar in the patio must be bonded?
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