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From an e-mail requesting info... Steve, I would suggest that you contact the Siemens Energy and Automation helpdesk in Alpharetta, Georgia. They will be able to provide you with this information, and direct you to a local distributor. The number for the helpdesk is 1-800-241-4453. Best regards, Alexa Smith Supervisor, SCAN CIC Siemens Canada Limited CIC@siemens.ca
Eventually, this led me to the old Siemens tec-support # in my area 1-978-685-6077. and an 8 pg fax from the Mar/April 00' NFPA journal, a great dissertation on the attributes and styles of AFCI's , but no mention of any ( of the 5 styles)addressing a multiwire circuit. It is frustrating to talk to manufacture's that don't even know what they make
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Update, Having finally reached a 'Real Human' as well as a sparky @ Siemens, I have learned that they DO NOT MAKE a 2-pole AFCI to address multiwire circuits. He claimed that they had numerous calls on multiwire compliance, and that they were 'working on it'.... counting to 11.......[This message has been edited by sparky (edited 02-14-2002).]
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Dear Steve We are only making 1 pole AFCI breakers at this time. Sorry Thank you for your Square D inquiry Schneider Electric/Square D Company Jim Betournay Product Support Specialist Customer Information Center 1-888-778-2733 12.....
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Cutler-Hammer has two pole Arc Fault breakers available. We have independent trip and common trip. Common trip meet the requirements of 210-4 for multiwire circuits on the same yoke. The independent trip can be used on home run circuits. The date on the website was a mis-print. It should have read November of 2001. The web page has been updated, and you can find the cat numbers at http://www.ch.cutler-hammer.com/NAS...8&Sec=products&uid=Variables.uid
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It appears Cut-Ham has cornered the market... 15 and 20 amp 2-pole independent trip AFCI for use on shared neutral (3-wire) circuits
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If one company has cornered the market, I don't think any code can legally require the use of that type of equipment. Don(resqcapt19)
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As far as retro-active code compliance, a few of our local suburban Phila. townships have Use & Occupancy Certificate requirements for transfer of real estate. Along with the current requirements of installing GFCIs, Ground rods, and a few other things, I was informed that as of March 1st, they will also require AFCIs in order to sell a home. I am going to notify the realtors that I work for that the average cost of U&O related electrical work will now likely increase by a few hundred dollars. This does not include the problems I will encounter when I come across a Pushmatic of FPE panel. What's a fella to do? Whole panel changeout, subpanel? I dunno!
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Redsy, Ooooo! That's another can of worms there. Bill
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Don, code doesn't mandate the home run wiring method, it mandates the use of AFCI. We've developed a product that allows contractors to continue wiring homes using the same methods they've been using, and we save them a ton of time and money. I think I'll leave it up to the contractors which they would prefer to do: A. Use competitor A's product that requires me to change my wiring method and wire two runs of 2 conductor, or: B. Use Cutler-Hammer's two pole AFIT, and continue to save labor by using three conductor.
Hmmm....which would you choose???
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