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#72070 11/19/06 07:25 AM
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The townhouse I live in has three bathrooms. One has the GFI and the other bathroom receptacles are protected by it. One circuit for all receptacles - lights and fans on another circuit.

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#72071 11/19/06 09:06 AM
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and Eddy, that is perfectly acceptable here in the states too.

The point is, there is code minimum (which we have to do) then there is better than code, which the customer has to pay for.

I never took a hypocratic oath to go above and beyond the call of duty (the code) unless someone wants to pay me more money for it.

Sorry for the reality of the situation. Being nice is great, but it doesn't pay the bills.

#72072 11/19/06 09:08 AM
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I always bid 3 different circuits.And they pay.

#72073 11/19/06 09:59 AM
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I always bid 3 different circuits.And they pay.

Thats great, better for you and them.


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#72074 11/19/06 10:07 AM
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that is the best way. so long as they are paying for the extra. just don't charge them for one circuit and give them 3 to be nice.

#72075 11/19/06 11:28 AM
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just don't charge them for one circuit and give them 3 to be nice

Words to live by in any situation.


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#72076 11/19/06 01:10 PM
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I agree with iwire. 3 circuts 1 for each or 1 plug circuit for all and at least 1 or more lighting cicuits for the rest.

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#72077 11/20/06 03:31 PM
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You've gotta install <b>three</b> dedicated circuits, strictly from the standpoint of the way these outlets are used today:

Most hair dryers today are roughly 1850W or so. So if three people are drying their hair, that's 46.24A which mean trip. If two people are drying their hair, that's 30.83A which also means trip. With three seperate 20A runs, everyone can dry their hair in harmony.

I say to heck with the plans, you're the electrician and the one they'll blame when the circuits don't work as expected. So tell them it will be necessary for you to deviate from plans, and additional charges will result. Any HO or GC will understand, and probably appreciate you're "correcting" the architects "error" so to speak. A good architect (without an easily bruised ego) will even appreciate this.

I say better to address the likely problem now, than having to fish later on. Changes often have to be made from plans. Besides, how would it look if you just kept your mouth shut, and then the HO or GC blasts you for not being "competent" for just following plans blidnly.

Joe

#72078 11/20/06 04:40 PM
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I'm going to go against the flow here and say code minimum is 2- one GFCI shared by all 3 bathrooms, and another for the lights.

My preference would be 3 circuits, though, 1 20A GFCI-protect for each bathroom, feeding lights and recepts: 15A for the hairdryer, 5A for the lights and fan.

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You've gotta install <b>three</b> dedicated circuits, strictly from the standpoint of the way these outlets are used today:

I might bring it up, but if they don't want to pay for it to be done 'right' it will be done to code or print and no more.


Bob Badger
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