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leland...I remember a line in a sci fi book that fits nicely. The total amount of intelligence in the society is a constant; but the population is increasing.  I'll remember that!! But seriously-with out getting into sociology. My early education were grown adults. I equate it to antibiotics. Yes they are good and beneficial...But too many and we lose what ever basic immunities we have. I don't like TRs'- for the most part.
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n still unscrew a lamp and put your finger in the hole Greg, Funny you should mention that. HPM down here makes a bayonet cap light fitting that has a spring loaded insulator that prevents contact with live parts without a bulb in the socket. This socket has been on the market for 10-12 years.
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Mike:
You happen to have a picture of that light fitting???
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Mike:
You happen to have a picture of that light fitting???
Sure do, This is from a catalouge by HPM from 1994: ![[Linked Image from electrical-photos.com]](https://www.electrical-photos.com/data/507/medium/BH1.JPG) There is also an earth terminal over the back (not shown) that all light fittings are required to have here regardless of wether they are metallic or not. I mean to say, it must have an earth conductor supplying it.
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I just go back to my Uncle.
"You MUST know more than the dog,If you want to teach him something."
A lot of truth to that!
And I'll stand by it!
Because it worked for me. As the LEARNER.
Made me smarter-(in my eye). After years of observation.....
Something to it for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Trumpy:
Thank you, my friend!!!
Take care & stay safe!!!
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All that means is if you stick your finger in the hole, don't push down.
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All that means is if you stick your finger in the hole, don't push down. Why even bother. 
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I guess you don't have kids.
It is an innovative design but if the intent is to make your little brother jump, it is just a puzzle. I really feel the same way about the TR receptacle. They will stop the 3 year old but be a challenge to a 6 year old.
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I guess you don't have kids.
It is an innovative design but if the intent is to make your little brother jump, it is just a puzzle. I really feel the same way about the TR receptacle. They will stop the 3 year old but be a challenge to a 6 year old.
No Greg, I don't have kids.(It's not through want of trying though) Bear in mind these are installed up on a ceiling, as in 8ft above the floor, pointing downwards. You think we install these things on the floor over here?
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