ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

>> Home   >> Electrical-Photos   >> Classifieds   >> Subscribe to Newsletter   >> Store  
 

Featured:

 Electrical
 Clearance

 *
 Tools
 *

 Books

 *

 Test Equipment

 

Recent Gallery Topics:
What in Tarnation?
What in Tarnation?
by timmp, September 10
Plumber meets Electrician
Plumber meets Electrician
by timmp, September 10
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 465 guests, and 14 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
SteveFehr #180837 09/12/08 12:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,049
Likes: 38
G
Member
I am still not sure what the violation would have been. The cable was marked "THHN or THWN"

http://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/ser.jpg


Greg Fretwell
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

Workgear for Electricians

gfretwell #180844 09/12/08 08:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 764
K
Member
Greg,
Here is basically what we are told when this comes up at code seminars in my area, and it seems to come up at every one.
Without the outer sheath or jacket, the UL label/mark is now missing and is no longer valid since you have intentionally field altered a listed cable assembly by removing the outer jacket more than is necessary for normal splicing and termination. Without the jacket, there is also no cable or conductor identification as required in 310.11[A] or 310.11[B], [1].
With the outer jacket intact it is the cable assembly SE/SER, designed for use in above ground installations. With the jacket stripped off more than necessary for splicing and termination, it is now scrap since without the jacket it also doesn’t meet NEC 310.11 requirements for individual conductors or cable assemblies.
I’m pretty sure the reason that the conductors aren’t marked individually, is so that it would be obvious that they were designed and listed to be used only as a cable assembly with an overall jacket or sheath. Just like NM-B [Romex].
Anyway, this explanation makes sense to me and has been enforced by inspectors in my area for many years.

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
Top Posters(30 Days)
triple 3
Popular Topics(Views)
587,972 Are you busy
464,984 Re: Forum
426,245 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5