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"Be honest with the guys, give them options..." ____________________________________________ Dnk,
It costs the employer to lay a man off, the money that you collect, comes from a state run fund, funded with contributions of the employer, which they have to pay back to the fund, and this increases their operating expenses in the long term, not an easy decision for an employer to make.
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"At the end of every large bridge project that ever got built the workforce was sent packing." __________________________________________
Yes, on large projects, they were sent back to the hall, and assigned another job, they also retained their benifits.
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When was an employee, if the boss asked me to cut wood, pull weeds, or brush his property....I responded politely "no thank you". I'd rather go fill-in somewhere else till he had electrical work for me.
Mike is right. If you like working with a certain company you'll wait untill they have work.
LK, its not "fly by night" companies that do this, its "small buisness" and they carry this country.
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quote"Yes, on large projects, they were sent back to the hall, and assigned another job, they also retained their benifits. "
Thats exactly what happened to the men I had to lay off at the tail end of my biggest project I ever had.
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LK, I'm a member of the IEC and while I haven't tried it they offer an employee loan/borrow program. If I need extra employees for a short time I can borrow from the pool, if I'm slow I can offer my employees for loan. It works similar to to IBEW pool, but they remain your employees.
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We have been doing that, with a few local EC's, and it helps, I din't know about the IEC pool, Thank you.
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The company I work for 'trades' with a few other ECs when needed.
I don't know the specifics but the employees remain employed by their original company.
They also trade/sell/buy some tools and temporary power equipment between companies
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Do not hire employees that you cannot keep busy year round. When you have projects that require more man power or skilled labor, hire subs. In my area there are two large ec's that I keep a good relationship with. When they need help they call me and vice versa. It has worked very well. I am a "small business" and I resent anybody from a "large business" telling me how to run my business or how to hire or layoff. I am busy year round and when slow, do everything possible to keep them busy, including subbing them out.
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International Electrotechnical Commission
International Engineering Consortium
What does IEC stand for that you are referring too?
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Ayerton, I can't speak for others, but....
One of my former employers whom I hold in the highest esteem is a guy who hired me for one job. No bs, promises, or excuses....he told me up front, at our first meeting, that he needed me for a three month job. Job finished, and I moved on.
At the other extreme, I have nothing but contempt, bordering on hatred, for a special few former employers who gave me the big song & dance, about how rosy my future was with them- then laid me odd the instant the job was done!
In between are the various corporate jellyfish who concocted "slow time" stories in order to fire me- rather than be honest as to their reasons. I can forgive dumping me so you can give your nephew a job- just don't insult me with your fairy tales!
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