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#153677 10/30/03 11:51 PM
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pwood,

Thanks, I've never seen a situation where someone was violated for the oversized gap around a box. I've never supplied oversized plates for a job and always point out to the GC or person in charge where gaps are too big. It doesn't seem like anyone else has ever heard of this rule.

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#153678 10/31/03 08:51 AM
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Bill,
The ad was in Sept/Oct2002 IAEI News-"News Source"
"Cooper Wiring Devices Introduces New Mid-size Thermoplastic Wallplates"
...."designed to cover electrical installation gaps"
...."adds a full 0.375" (9.525mm) on all sides to NEMA standard-size plates, providing needed gap coverage for over cuts or other large wallboard-to-box openings"
(they also describe the product line as "exciting"...I guess somebody must lead a pretty boring life)...S [Linked Image]

#153679 10/31/03 05:36 PM
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I've always taken 314.21 to mean if the electrician were to perform install old work, therefore the electrician cuts the hole, is responsible, and as such citable for said hole...

i could be wrong ,inspectors might be writing up drywallers...

is this so??

#153680 10/31/03 08:19 PM
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Per NEC 314.21Repairing Plaster and Drywall or Plasterboard.
Plaster, drywall, or plasterboard surfaces that are broken or incomplete shall be repaired so there will be no gaps or spaces greater than 3mm (1/8") at the edge of the box or fitting.

Is the cover plate a "fitting"?

#153681 11/03/03 08:22 AM
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Sparky, It seems to me that if the NEC was to be applied only to electricians, then the other Codes would apply only to the trades that they govern.
That would mean that we could cut large holes through structural elements, cut A/C ducts out of our way, etc., and the other trades would merely have to say that "The electrician did it".
Since we are subject to the other Codes, I believe that the *^&%$# drywallers are subject to enforcement of the NEC...S

#153682 11/04/03 06:12 PM
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Point taken Electure, i agree that there must be a concensus of cross referencing, unfortunatley many jobs i see have gaps a cow could be launched through here...
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it's been jumborama up until the new energy laws enlightened (this is YOUR tax dollars at work folks) that Vermont is cold in the winter and leaks cost $$$
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