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Nice, Neat Job Bob!

(hey that rhymes ... [Linked Image] )

Refreshing to see. I'd like to see more pictures of stuff done right.
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Bill,
I couldn't agree more. Lots of Good jobs would be great to see here. I unfortunately don't get to see many jobs before something breaks, or a warranty issue comes up(I'll look for some)


Bob,
The "no thinking" reasoning for the deep boxes has real merit. I'll bet most of the problems we run into were caused by "non thinking" people's thinking.


[This message has been edited by electure (edited 03-28-2004).]

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did you use anti-shorts if so you did a good job

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Big guy: Anti-short's are not required for MC cable. Only AC cable requires the use of them. See 320.40 and also 330.40 In my opinion, the use of anti-short bushings does not create boundary between a good job and a poor one. Just my opinion.

As the others said, nice looking work Bob. [Linked Image]


Edited to add code references.

[This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 03-28-2004).]


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Thank you Ryan.

While I would be quick to point out the same thing Ryan did (Red Heads not Required) when out on the job I just can not bring myself to leave the red head out even if it means a walk back to the stock area to get some for just one MC termination.

Always have used them and probably always will.

It seems like very cheap peace of mind to help prevent shorts similar to this.

Friday a 277 volt switch box blew up when energized for the first time with the device installed, the circuit has been locked out.

I have not checked it out for a cause yet, I did see the destroyed wall mount occupancy sensor and the blackened wall paint, I will check into it tomorrow and let you know what I find.

My feeling is that the load side wire from the occupancy sensor got pinched when installed, the circuit had been working before the wall sensor went in.

Bob


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yes i do know that but i think all good electrician use them!
If you are on my job you will use them and
that is all there is to it.
But just for the fun of it why do thay come
on the roll?
All yes and what about 110-3b 110-7 110-12
If thay come on the roll just to throw them out (i don't think so)

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NEC is the MINIMUM standard. There is a difference between meeting the minimum and going the extra mile for quality.

Nice work iwire.

If we hadn't sold our $750 digital camera at the last garage sale for $30, I'd submit some photos too. hopefully they'd measure up.

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Big guy: None of your references apply. 110.3(B) pertains only to the listing requirements. The last time I read the UL white book, they are not required on MC cable. As far as neat and workmanlike goes....come on [Linked Image]. I'm not saying they are a bad thing, in fact I used to use them myself, but they aren't required.


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Nice looking work Bob. Interesting how you pull the cable before the walls are up. Never seen that done on a large scale before.

Could you send those drywallers to Ga? [Linked Image]

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iwire your work looks good and you use anti-shorts that is what i think
ryan would you explain 110.7 to me then and why the mc come with anti shorts

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