Master66, I know that here in north Texas an experienced electrician can join the IBEW, take their written and practical "hands-on" test and be classified as a JIW (Journeyman Inside Wireman) but that does NOT entitle him/her to a city license. Some union jobs calling for JIW's stipulate the JIW's must also hold a city license. To obtain that license in Dallas, in addition to passing either the city test or the tougher SBCCI test, one still has to prove to the Chief Electrical Inspector a minimum of 8000 hrs. and present notarized letters of recommendation before the city of Dallas will take your $20 and issue the Journeyman Electrician registration (license).