Here in Jersey the Labor Department programs, have been around, since the 70's, when they first started we heard all the same talk about , the old way was better, and it is all messed up, but as it turned out, it is a good system, and works well, the old way, you din't know, if you had a properly trainned guy, or how much time he actually had, the trainning was left up to the EC, and some trainned their men well, and others just took advantage of them, we have no problem, working with the labor department, or the schools, all our app, have been thru the program, and some have left, to go on, to bigger and better jobs.

For those out in CA, try to get more involved, with the state board, make sure if possible, get one of your Assn members on the board.