Thanks guys, I can see where the same subjects would come up every so often. The trade has a wide scope and there are almost always more than one way to get an acceptable result in the field. Throw in the fact that there are so many members to this forum and some topics have to come up over and over. Although, I still haven't seen anyone post the answer here. heh heh. Just kidding. I'll give you guys another riddle in another thread if you like.