heh, i'm with you, and i would think we all are HotOne. yanno i used to have an ongoing debate with a one Oshadoc, a very well spoken carear Osha man.

we both wanted the same thing, but sort of came at it from different perspectives.

my stance was that you can't hammer the workforce into compliance with some ivory tower doctrine that may not ever reach those workers in the trenches

i mean, how many contractors consider safety a pita, or those who enforce it predatory because of the costs and/or potential fines?

the entire gestalt should be restructured to safety being condusive to doing business, instead of this necessary evil aura it has now

and i don't like the idea that safety, and safety related practice or education is becomming less and less economically obtainable

the insurance cabal should grant WC and liability breaks where those of us actually do seek compliance

the issuance of an apprenticeship green card should come along with a 70E copy in the mail(which the book, not the handbook cost me a paltry $35)

apprenticeship courses could squander a night explaining it as well

imho, inasmuch as there is a cost to safety, the rest of the world must acknowledge it via putting it's revenue where it's collection mouth is