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Ski Bunnyville? You're making that claim to ME ... who has but one big rock between himself, and Lake Tahoe? laugh


eastern ski bunny's Reno, that 25 letter alphabet's about the only notable dif "paaak the caaaa in the haaaaavaaad yaaaaad..."

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Perhaps that economic bar you mention is what inspired this thread. As I had mentioned, we don't see many old places being replaced. The cummulative effect of the code changes seems to be to make the jump - from 'old' to new' - ever higher, a leap fewer can manage each year.

well yes, it's economics, but there's also the mysterious demon thing we do that people don't pay any mind to, i.e.- it works or it doesn't, they call us when it doesn't.

So while there's a pile of kitchen and bathroom bucks being doled out for them to be done over, we have to sell the service upgrades that aren't as pretty

i really want to come back in my next life as a tile guy yanno, they get all the glory for a bathroom floor/shower, while we gotta argue about proper circuitry.....

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Just to take the one example of a 'safety improvement' that seems most justified: the GFCI.
In my house, the only bath receptacle is in the base of the sink light. Even if they made sink lights with GFCI's built into them, such would not meet the code requirement for a bath-only 20 amp circuit.
IF there had been a receptacle in the bath, a GFCI device would not fit in the box.
Going to the fuse box, well, there are no GFCI fuses.

and the doc's kids are sick, the plumbers toliet leaks, etc...i guess there's a bright side in that you could hold apprenticeship class in your home Reno.

but i'm no one to talk, i live in a 1/2 built house now, violated every know building code to man , no CO's here....

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So, in order to get a code-compliant GFCI in the bathroom, we're looking at a $2000 job: service change and new circuit. With fire-blocking at 4 ft. and 8 ft., putting that receptacle at counter height is going to be a challenge.


how many times have we tried to sell this out there, and been shown the door .....

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Let's jump to the 2008 edition, and decide to add AFCI protection. Since the house was originally wired with all the lights and receptacles on a single multi-wire branch circuit ..... and there are neither AFCI devices, nor two-pole AFCI breakers (anymore) ..... you're looking at a complete rewire, including the removal / replacement of a section of the outside asbestos-cement siding.


asbestos= moon suit level 3 double overtime hazmat response !!!

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While we're at it, let's add the 2008 required phone jack - even though I had my phone 'land line' discontinued in 2005 laugh

so much for whine-11......


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Another challenge is complying with the 1996 edition's requirement for a 'laundry outlet.' Apart for there not being space within the building for even a stack unit, we run up against the plumbing code. That is, this place was built with a 1-1/2" drain line; the plumbing code specifies a minimum 2" drain for a washer. As a result, you're talking about digging up the parking area, re-plumbing to the city sewer, and repaving after. That is a mighty expensive receptacle!


excellent economic snowball Reno

but that's how the world works these days, and hey, just got off a job where the state fire marshal had the potential new biz owner (and my potential meal ticket for next week) in a verbal headlock via this same scenario

sometimes all one can do is cheer from the sidelines....

~S~