Thanks everyone, I do have a 30A Definite purpose contactor for the pump ( there's a thermal at the pump)
and I have replaced Crydom SSRs when they have gone bad, just never thought of it for these little loads. but I will remember these ideas next time

I did find a 12A octal and a 15A cube but that would need a different base.both have an LED and push-to-test button and they are about $ 5 from http://web4.automationdirect.com/ad...imers/15A_Electro-Mechanical_Cube_Relays


Tom